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Letter to Dr. Holsworth, Dean of Humanities and Sciences
April 20, 2006 at 8:02 pm (Bitchy, School, Thoughts & Musings)
Dr. Holsworth:
I, as most English majors, have recently had my hackles raised by the overwrought cries of Deanna Lorianni. A student is responsible for his or her education, and Ms. Lorianni's need to play the victimized student and more importantly that it be taken seriously is apalling to me.
Students are given access to all of the materials they need in order to own their education and tailor it to their needs and lifestyles. One cannot flip through a class schedule for any given semester and *not* notice the general education requirements, the worksheet for every major is available online and in any school's department office, and the VCU Bulletin (easily accessible online and on campus) clearly outlines exactly what students are required to take, as well as the number of credit hours necessary for graduation.
Students have 24/7 access to their transcripts and OnTrack information, which as far as I can tell despite a few minor hiccups here and there, is nothing short of accurate. So for a student to blame their advisor for their inability to graduate is ludicrous.
Advisors in the English department are not actual full-time positions, as some students seem to think. Advising is tacked on as added duties to already over-burdened people. As you are aware, most departments are thoroughly overwhelmed, especially the English department. These are good people that work tirelessly for this instutition and the students with little praise and less pay in the mostly thankless and certainly underappreciated role as educators. I cannot fathom why a student should expect a professor who has more than a full plate between classes, meetings and their other numerous advises, to take more of an active role in maintaining that student's academic record of achievements and requirements. Advisors have the same resources available to them as the students, there's no arcane magic to advisement, as you know.
Many students graduate without ever having seen their advisors for more than five minutes. If this student is unable to maintain record of her coursework then clearly she isn't fit to be holding a college degree. Advisors are not meant to function in loco parentis, and even the best advisors are human and thus capable of error. Which is why the system of student and advisor exists. Redundency is critical in all systems, without it, the system will err. Such as in this case.
Blame rests ultimately with the students, it is their education after all. Education is designed to educate, not coddle the student. Grading scales include failure as a potential outcome. This is clearly a case of faliure, on the student's part, to make sure she was on her own path. Advisors are not meant to handhold. If Ms. Lorianni cannot keep track of an entire semester's worth of credit hours, then there is a much larger issue at hand. And as such she should receive no special consideration in this situation.
I urge you to nip this problem in the bud, lest a pandora's box of whining students who barely know their parts of speech be allowed to graduate simply on their persistence and ability to whinge. Part of college is learning how to manage one's life for one's self. This is the point of adolescence, and by pandering to this student's complaints we're only setting the president that being responsible for one's life is not a valued skill, and perpetuating a vicious cycle of American's who eschew all responsibility.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Respectfully,
Dustin Lacina
I Feel Love
April 20, 2006 at 3:14 pm (Amusing, Bitchy, School, Thoughts & Musings)
Oh my darlings, when I was away in class, my message got posted, and I got responses. Shall I share them with you, OH, I do believe I shall.
Our first bit of love comes from Danielle Pagano:
You are my hero.
Thank you.
Isn't that lovely? It is. No my dear, you are my hero for not being a sheep during these times that try men's souls.
Scarlett Sams (not Johannson, sadly) writes:
Dustin,
Thank you for saying what needs to be said. I have never had anything but a great experience with all of the faculty of the English Dept.
If you want to continue to send out these whining emails, please remove my address from your list. I don't have time for this nonsense.
But then we have Mr. Daniel Betts, who aside from having a stupid last name, also has stupid criticisms, and apparently a vocabulary so limited, "Asinine" (he probably cut and pasted it as I doubt he could spell it) is considered "academic" to him:
Chill out man.
It's ok. I promise. Your spotless reputation isn't sullied at all.
Oh wait…
Except for the part where you made yourself look like an idiot. If you want to make fun of people for sending out e-mails to the entire English Listserv I would recommend you don't do the same thing.
Just a thought for smart people.
Oh wait…
That would not be for you then.
And by the way, you really sound like an academic when your vocabulary includes words like "FULL-STOP" and "asinine"
And by academic I meant snobby stuck-up brat.
But we're in college so I would never say that.
Oh yah, major props for insulting the Business School. That was professional of you.
You don't need others actions to make you ridiculous, You do a fine job of that yourself.
Thank you.
Daniel Betts
More praise, comes in the form of a succinct email from Brittanny Evans (I love the double-n concept):
well played, sir!
-britt
Ali Hesami decides to sling an attempt at a pujorative nickname and writes:
How would you feel if it was you this had happened to, Mr. big words? I am also not effected by the lackluster advising at VCU, but I feel for people who have. Like it or not, we are all human, and we shouldn't close our eyes to others' misery, regardless of the cause.
But you are of course entitled to your opinions and feelings. I respect that. However, that DOES NOT give you the right to personally attack people you know nothing about (are you a Republican, by any chance?), in a mass e-mail, no less.
Never assume you know all the answers. You don't. There will come a day when you fuck something up and need help, and then the irony will hit you like a train.
Just because you include Latin phrases in your writings doesn't make you smart. Advisors have only one job, and that is to advise students on academic matters, such as course selection, etc. If this advice leads to the student taking the wrong courses more often than not (as is the case here in VCU), then why are they drawing a salary from the school, who is constantly raising our tuition rates?
Did it ever occur to you to think before you piss and moan publicly? Did you think no one was going to call you on it?
Best of luck (you will need it),
Ali Hesami
And no really that was his spacing. Is it so hard to put in real carriage returns? I may need luck, but he needs another plug at the "Enter" key.
Zack Rathner writes what could possibly be my favorite of the emails:
dustin isn't very friendly
Haha! So brilliant and witty, why I'm sure it's the type of response I'd write, if I was to sympathize with simpering bitches.
Kristen Hall simply writes:
AMEN.
Thank you.
Indeed sister. Indeed.
Now here's an interesting message, and one I'm quite glad to receive because it illustrates an interesting point:
Not all of us are brain damaged…some of us frankly do not give a damn. It's her fault. Take with people who care. Stop sending mass emails…I'm too busy finishing papers and have no room for your problems. Others feel the same because we gripe about this crap in class.
Drew Davis
VCU Rams Lacrosse
Some of us don't give a damn. It's true, but the fact is, this girl is getting to walk 15 credits early, because no one wants to deal with her headache. Apathy does breed tragedy sometimes. The fact is this professor will probably be issued some sort of repremand if chickypoo gets her way, which is a sad sad thing. And as for being too busy to care…well…why'd you click on the damn email? I only opened it because I'm hip to the buzz of the English Dept, and it's one of the few things I do care about. I'll ignore the fact that he signs his name with "VCU Rams Lacrosse" under it. That'd just be a cheap shot.
Shaheed A Harun, "totally agrees with me" or so he guesses:
I guess I totally agreed with you. Not only was she trying to listen to only one advisor, but theres many advisors in the English department to help her out. She could've went to Dr. Kinney and asked him, so she wouldn't be whining now. She has no right to rip that advisor. She should have been responsible in know what she has to do. Plus she said she is 15 credits off from graduating. I mean c'mon how do you slide past that? She is just trying to blame someone else for something that is her own fault. Thanks for bringing the real sense out to light. I don't feel sympathy for this girl.
shaheed
How about another criticism of my opinion? This is from the God-fearing Kimberley Rilee:
I am new to the college and have spent many hours "investigating" the
courses I need to graduate. This university is exactly that, a
university. When I graduate, I am hoping to become and English teacher,
another underpaid job in our society. The fact of the matter is, when I
ask my advisor what classes I need to do certain things, and they don't
know, that is ridiculous. I know I have spent hours to do so. I am glad
you have had a satisfactory time in this, but these advisors are paid to
do a job that a lot of them are NOT doing satisfactorily. This
particular student's case seems a little extreme, but at the same time,
unless you have spent hours tracking down what you need to graduate with
no answers, I don't think you are qualified to speak on the matter.
Have a good day, and God bless,
Kimberly Rilee
If it takes you hours to flip through a maybe twenty page newsprint to find the General Education requirements, and the five pages on English Literature major requirements, than you have a much larger problem than an Advisor can solve. And maybe this is the problem with Deanna, she couldn't count to 120, so how could we expect her to flip through a bulletin or course guide?
But my dears, I've saved the best for last…Deanna herself has written a response:
Hello Dustin,
I never once expected VCU advisors to be my "mommy and/or daddy" and I certainly am not looking for any "Pity me" from people, especially not you.
For years I've been doing my own advising because I was never given an advisor to "advise" me. And so when I finally was given someone to talk to, I expect that paths they advise us towards should be accurate and not faulty. When I specifically ask them if there are any credits that I am missing, this is where they should be able to answer yes or no correctly. That is why they are our advisors.
If they are underpaid and overworked, then that is a part of the problem here at VCU. It is apparent that the appropriate funding is not being sent to our lovely English department and so my point in voicing my disappointment was to raise awareness that this is a widespread problem in VCU. I have received many responses from students who are feeling similar to the discontent I feel and so this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
You are fortunate that you have not experienced what I and many other students have within the English Department.
Perhaps, though, instead of belittling others for having an opinion and sincere concern about the institution, you can learn to respect other people's opinion as valid expressions and thoughts. Even those who are in need of better guidance deserve to have a college education AND their voices heard.
Sincerely,
Deanna Geneva R. Lorianni
I don't think she was addressing anything other than her royal cuntishness and her pathetic whining need to feel victimized because she couldn't get her way because no one ever taught her to count past 100. Deanna, as well as a few others raise a point that is very troubling to me…
The belief that and advisor's only job is to advise. Well, this is simply not true. Advisors are culled from the faculty, they teach, and research, and serve on committees. They're not simply there to memorize the course requirements and prod students on their merry ways. Hell, my advisor is the Associate Chair of the department and *HE* has to look things up the same way I would when I have a question. Which is why I don't go to him unless I need career guidance such as "what course do you think I would benefit from more" or "what are my odds at an MFA" or for overrides into filled classes, or multiple sections of creative writing classes. I rarely see my advisor because I know his life is filled with hundreds of students needing something, even non-majors, departmental meetings, class, and while he himself doesn't do a lick of research, there are others that do and are required to do so. There's no such thing as Just an Advisor in the English department. And if people bothered to know their professors, they'd know that's a fact. Ah…god this just proved to me that no, it's not an isolated case. This strain of stupidity is pretty virulent.
Fucking Babies.
April 20, 2006 at 11:15 am (Bitchy, Fucking Hell, School, Thoughts & Musings)
So this was in my VCU email inbox today:
April 18, 2006
Hello fellow students,
I am currently an English Major at VCU who was expecting to graduate this semester. For the past two years I have been following the advice of my English advisor who has repeatedly assured me that I was on the correct path to graduation. Just last week, I met with her and she told me that everything looked great and all I needed to do was sign the application.
Then, a few days ago, I received an upsetting phone call telling me I still need 15 credits to graduate! Consequently, all the life plans I've been making according to my May graduation have been haulted due to the faulty advisor's advice. If only I'd known about the leftover 15 credits, that someone, my ADVISOR repeatedly OVERLOOKED, I wouldn't have used this spring semester to take only the ONE class I was TOLD I needed to graduate!
It never fails, time and time again I have received horrible advising, if ANY AT ALL! For the first two and a half years of my VCU career, there was never even any advisor given to me. When I'd approach the English department for help, no one had my name in the correct files. For years now, I've been led in circles trying to simply find the necessary help needed in proper advising.
This is absurd and I feel completely neglected in importance as a paying English student at VCU. What makes it even more frustrating, is that I was told that this is not an uncommon problem with VCU students, that at graduation time, the office gets this conflict frequently.
THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING!!
WE pay GOOD, hard-earned money to receive our education and we SHOULD be receiving the proper advising!
SO, I am now looking to my fellow English major students who also feel they have been screwed by the lack of proper advising in VCU's English Department and who want to have their voice heard.
I am a freelance journalist and I am writing an article on this injustice, and will also be confronting the Dean of the Humanities and Science, Robert Holsworth. This is unfair and has been a waste of my time and money and it will NOT be ignored.
Please, all who wish to make their voice heard, email me with your experience and feelings on this subject. Until someone creates a stir, this problem will continue to happen.
We will not be abused by this insufficiency of VCU's faulty advising system any longer.
Sincerely,
Deanna Geneva Lorianni
I can't belive this stupid bitch. Are you kidding me? What's with that stupid capitalization, too? Why is it that college students are getting dumber and dumber with every passing moment. NOT EVEN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT IS SAFE ANYMORE?! Christ on a cracker.
I had to reply back to the VCU Listserv for English Majors, I couldn't abide that bitch's email.
So here we go:
Fellow Students…
Are WE all this BRAIN damaged? I check my email so VERY rarely and this is the kind of nonsense that makes me never wish to check it.
How does one miss an entire semester's WORTH of credit hours, and expect to graduate?
If one is paying "GOOD, hard-earned money" for their education, one would expect they would take AN active interest in reading the damned bulletin and checking her own progress against what her advisor has. It's just common sense!
When I READ nonsensical, kvetching like this it makes me ashamed to associate with the label "English Student" because this is the KIND of crap that makes us unable to be taken seriously. If you want to bitch and whine, GO TO THE BUSINESS SCHOOL.
English professors and STAFF are overworked, underpaid, and having to spend their time struggling to teach the parts of SPEECH to people who have no right being in Freshman Comp. and deal with everything else that comes with running A university essential department, and they don't have the time or energy to deal with this stupid, asinine BABBLING. Hell, they don't even have time to teach classes that would actually give them the spark of enthusiasm they should have, because they're too busy dealing with this nosense!
Advisors, *ADVISE*, they're not MOMMY and/or daddy. There is no In Loco Parentis clause IN their contract. They are not to coddle or to RUN your life for you.
IF you CAN'T be bothered with making sure your own LIFE is on track, why should anyone else be more thorough than you? So your advisor glitched, well tough, it happens, people make mistakes, especially when they're responsible FOR so many other lives, and their own. You've only got yours. PAY ATTENTION TO IT and if you can't–
YOU DON'T BELONG IN COLLEGE–FULL STOP.
Take responsibility for your own skin, and if you've got a problem, DEAL WITH IT LIKE AN ADULT. Don't send out whingefest emails to the English Listserv. It's just unbecoming, so let's not have a repeat of this "pity me because I couldn't pay attention to my own major requirements; my advisor betrayed me, woe, woe and heartbreak."
Thank you.
Dustin Lacina
Christ, I'm pissed now. I have to go get a tea.
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