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Comment on The End of Fat People: Goodbye Hostess by OlderThanDirt
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/the-end-of-fat-people-goodbye-hostess/#comment-56387
Fri, 03 May 2013 20:14:16 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=886#comment-56387Totally off-topic and months too late: I was just re-reading an old Shapely Prose post and saw a comment from you. It reminded me how much I enjoyed reading your blog and seeing your comments across the internet. I’m not sure if I ever commented here or not, but I wanted to take a minute to say hi.
This whole blog-thing is so strange. Seeing your name was like seeing someone from the old neighborhood that you haven’t talked to in ages, OMG! How are you! And as I said, not even being sure I’d ever even commented on your blog.
Anyway, I hope you’re doing well and that life is being kind. Thanks for all your good work.
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Comment on The End of Fat People: Goodbye Hostess by Friday Links, 11/23/12 « Tutus And Tiny Hats
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/the-end-of-fat-people-goodbye-hostess/#comment-51907
Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:59:43 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=886#comment-51907[…] fat. -This New Moon article about food and eating is amazing. I hope it reaches many, many girls. -The end of fat people: goodbye, Hostess. -Lesley writes movingly about her preteen eating disordered years. -A lovely piece–complete […]
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Comment on The End of Fat People: Goodbye Hostess by Clara
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/the-end-of-fat-people-goodbye-hostess/#comment-51692
Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:41:17 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=886#comment-51692Obviously, all us fatties will just be skinny now like everyone has always said.
Oh wait, McDonald’s still exists, right?
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Comment on Mental Health At Every Size: Yes, Your Brain Counts Too by Sizism and Healthism: Some Perspective | closetpuritan
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/mental-health-at-every-size-yes-your-brain-counts-too/#comment-50056
Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:00:32 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=194#comment-50056[…] that health should not be a moral imperative. People get to prioritize their health as well as prioritize certain aspects of their health over others. People should not have to deal with busybodies asking them about their […]
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Comment on On Being Believed by Patsy Nevins
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-49169
Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:33:51 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-49169And just for the record, being fat is NOT a behavior, it is a body size. Body size is almost completely unrelated to behavior.
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Comment on On Being Believed by bj1980
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-49095
Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:18:49 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-49095Is there a similar limit being discussed for beer? Because if this is considered a Viable Solution when it comes to fatness, why *not* on beer? Consider — I drink 60 oz of pop, I burp a lot. I drink 60 oz of beer, I’d probably wrap the car around a tree, while burping a lot. Burping < car-wrapping+burping.
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Comment on On Being Believed by nowwhatjessica
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-48100
Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:07:36 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-48100It is interesting how our society condones certain unhealthy behaviors and not others. Being fat is the only behavior that results in a physical representation of the unhealthy habit, and in our society being fat is often deemed as unattractive. I’m currently living in New York City and leaving because of the unbelievable cost of living here, I’m sad to see that the Mayor is wasting his energy on silly legislation when we really need laws to protect the rising costs of housing here.
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Comment on On Being Believed by Mimsy-porpington
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-46076
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:42:05 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-46076Great blog, love your writing and perspective. I also have an unbelievable-for-a-fatty diet, no soda pop for over ten years, not that it’s really about soda of course. I just have no patience with people’s presumptions about my eating habits from how I look. I wonder how people would like it if I started offering random advice on what I assumed their ‘shameful’ habits were.
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Comment on On Being Believed by brooklynshoebabe
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45939
Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:41:34 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45939Reblogged this on Kiki Over Thinks Everything.
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Comment on On Being Believed by Soda Ban Roundup | closetpuritan
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45923
Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:43:53 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45923[…] Meowser points out all the things that people must assume are true, in order for the soda ban to make any sense. […]
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Comment on On Being Believed by Anna
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45906
Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:48:47 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45906This post is excellent, and I have no significant things to add. All of it is just so fucking true, and I love the sentence “Even those without their cup in the money river and buying it” which is just absolutely spot on
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Comment on On Being Believed by class factotum
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45901
Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:39:26 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45901I don’t drink soda, either, but I resent the government thinking it has the right to tell me what I can and cannot eat. Aren’t there other things they need to fix before they start micromanaging my diet?
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Comment on On Being Believed by fattery
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45851
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:08:57 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45851Good analysis. I don’t drink any soda, ever, because I just don’t like it, so, like you, this ban doesn’t affect me directly. But it’s going to contribute to fat stigma (and the way our country treats the rights of its citizens in general), so I care about it.
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Comment on On Being Believed by Living 400lbs
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45849
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:30:22 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45849Yes. Fat people are seen as lying liars who lie.
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Comment on On Being Believed by Caterina Louise
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/on-being-believed/#comment-45843
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:59:27 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=880#comment-45843I’m not overweight (I do have about 7 years of an eating disorder behind me though) but I do have slight -moderate autism. Because I am capable of most social interactions or practices that are demanded of people in our culture (it’s come with A LOT of practice), people often think I’m lying when I say I’m autistic. If they know me very well they’ll concede that I’m an odd puppy, but they think of all autistic people as having no social ability/ or people completely incapable of speech/ motor skills/ and taking care of themselves. I’ve been told I’m mean or lying. Worst of all, I’ve been told I’m mocking REAL autistic people by claiming to be in the same bracket as them. However, with a little education (a lot of people can’t really grasp at first that there are many levels of severity in the autism spectrum) they usually accept what I’m saying without much further argument.
I can’t imagine what it would be like if these people just kept ignoring me and denying my experiences as an autistic person as they do with overweight people. I probably would not be as calm or as nice as you are. 🙂
Great post – Thanks!
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Comment on Sometimes an Apple is Never a Banana by Lindsay
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/sometimes-an-apple-is-never-a-banana/#comment-45031
Fri, 11 May 2012 02:07:48 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=832#comment-45031In reply to Ashley Pariseau.
Ha, I get told that by my mom.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Empress de Snark
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-44809
Fri, 04 May 2012 19:27:27 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-44809I’ve really enjoyed this validating piece. I’m a 220-lb woman who has for many years filled her fridge with organic and local stuff whenever I can. I probably haven’t bought the non-organic milk since the turn of the millenium. I don’t eat fast food and I don’t constantly have my snout in a bag of chips. I love vegetables and fruits and will basically eat any vegetable except lima beans and mushrooms. I don’t eat fried food more than once a week, and I don’t cook it at home because I don’t enjoy cleaning up grease.
At Easter service this year, I was trying to explain to the Church Busybody why I don’t have a man in my life, and why it’s not really a priority for me. She pulled me closer by my shoulder, and widened her eyes and looked intently into mine, imparting this fearsome secret: “Honey, I would never want to hurt you, but don’t you think the reason you can’t find a nice man is that you’re overweight? Have you ever thought about losing weight? You know Charlotte, my daughter, is a nutritionist, and she could teach you lots of things. You could eat healthy, fresh food, in controlled portions, and I bet in a year or so you’d be able to find yourself a fella.”
Yeah. The assumptions. The assumption of ignorance. The assumption of poor health and poor choices. The assumption that I must shovel enormous quantities of McNuggets and donuts into my fat maw every waking hour. The assumption that I’m seeking advice about nutrition or reducing my body size, just because if you’re fat, you automatically must desire thinness. The assumption that I need or want to attract a partner even after I’ve clearly stated that’s not among my plans. Hoo boy, all the assumptions you can make about people just from the size of their body.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by LIronside
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-44708
Tue, 01 May 2012 20:05:31 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-44708This reply is off-topic, so forgive me. I have been reading your blog obsessively for the past few days, and I have to say it’s enlightening. I guess I would consider myself a type 2 according to your “fategories”. I have been 40 pounds heavier, but even then my BMI was only 26. I had what I considered a hard time losing weight, but to be honest, I worked out alot so that I could eat buffet. It wasn’t until I got pregnant and suffered from hyperemesis that I lost a significant amount of weight, and that has since stayed off. I admit I am very lucky: my husband has a good paying job, so we can afford good quality and fresh food. I live in a military town in Canada, so fitness facilities abound. There are parks everywhere here. I am also lucky genetically. Although I can’t eat “whatever I want” and not gain weight, I do carry alot of muscle and am pretty liberal with what I eat. I do make an effort to eat healthy, especially to set an example for my daughter,but as I also a recovering bulimic, and NEVER EVER want my daughter succombing to this disease, we don’t practice restriction. I am also fortunate in that the SSRI I was prescribed to treat the bulimia actually balanced my hormones and I lost weight.
I am telling all of this, because I am one of those people who never experienced weight bias, and actually never really thought it could be as severe as it is. If I am honest (and it makes me ashamed) its more likely I subjected people to a weight bias (especially since I would selectively screen anecdotal data: I know people who have lost weight, and kept it off, but forget about all those who I know who couldn’t lose weight or couldn’t keep it off). Truth be told, I had no idea this fat bias was so deeply ingrained or automatic in the way i judged people. To get to the point, this blog has really opened my eyes.
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by LittleBigGirl
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-44101
Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:58:22 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-44101It seems you have dug down to the root of the FA movement with this post. People who ‘hate fat’ often treat fat people horribly, and people who hate being fat often end up hating themselves.
There is no logical reason to hate fat. If it were a proven detriment like cancer then you could be concerned about it, but the “hatred” of fat we witness is more often than not based on social bias about aesthetics and beauty, only now with a new layer of misinformation about health to protect the haters from accusations of shallowness.
I have never heard anyone say “I hate fat(ness)” – it is always “I hate fat people.” And it is always hate, or disdain, or pity, or some other egocentric and selfish emotion – not concern.
When many people say they hate fat, they are really saying “I hate people that I assume are lazy and greedy who don’t try hard enough to live up to my preconceptions of an individual’s worth.”
Some people just aren’t happy to simply stand, without a neck to put their foot on.
FWIW, I have depression and I am a trauma survivor with PTSD. My greatest struggle with those conditions is the feeling of being “broken”, “flawed” or of weak character because I cannot simply will myself “normal.” I do not hate myself because I have depression but sometimes my depression makes me hate myself. So I hate my depression right back.
I cannot separate myself from my fat, so I must learn to accept it so I can accept myself. If other people cannot accept my fat that is their problem in addition to being none of their fucking business.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Mike S.
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-43374
Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:38:03 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-43374Thanks for the post, it’s fascinating. I’m glad you have had at least some of your medical issues more understood now, even if you would have benefited from knowing what was wrong much earlier.
One of my brothers thinks he might have hemochromatosis, based on an off hand comment about abnormal iron levels he heard from a physician during an emergency room visit. He’s in the process of applying for Medicaid so he can get that checked along with getting checked for celiac disease since two of our other siblings have been definitively diagnosed with that. I find it an interesting coincidence that you would mention those two diseases in the post.
I think to some extent the desire to have condescending feelings towards other people is innate to humans. If we can’t find people to look down upon because of their skin color we’ll look down on them because of their religion. If we can’t look down on them because of their religion we’ll look down on them because of their sex or their sexual orientation. If we can’t look down on them for their sex or sexual orientation, we’ll look down on them for using tobacco. If we can’t look down on them because of tobacco we’ll look down on them because they eat meat (or maybe because they don’t eat meat). And now we’ll look down on them for being fat. I have no idea what the solution is, but I think heightened fat discrimination is partly a result of the fact that discrimination based on race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, and vegetarianism or non-vegetarianism is becoming less socially acceptable. (I’m not trying to say any of those forms of discrimination are gone or even dramatically better than they were two generations back, but they are all at least a little better.)
I don’t know who the new scapegoats will be when discrimination against fat people is finally lumped among the other forms of unacceptable behavior.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Meowser
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-42702
Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:47:44 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-42702In reply to Alexie.
Oh, definitely. But I have to think that in many cases, even with continuous access to care, a lot of practitioners don’t think to test or look for certain things, especially if they’re relatively rare conditions or they’ve been conditioned to think “x kind of people don’t have that.” Better access and better clinician education are needed here in the U.S.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Patsy Nevins
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-42682
Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:06:46 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-42682Amen. I have been doing some ranting this morning, in an email to a friend & somewhat in a comment on another blog, about the concept of ‘personal responsibility’, & also the idea that, if fat people are to be accepted & respected, we must constantly prove that we are ‘good’ people, that we eat ‘right’, that we are, in essence, trying to be thin, & the idea our culture fosters that if we get sick at all, especially if we happen to be fat, it is ALL OUR OWN FAULT. I am especially enraged at the nannying which goes on in this culture, the belief that everyone’s body is everyone else’s business & we all have the right to tell others how to live. Our bodies belong to us, how we live in them is our business. People of all sizes, shapes, lifestyles, eating habits, die young, or live to be 100. A lot of it is genetics, aging, & dumb luck. If we like processed foods & don’t want to exercise, it is no one’s business but our own. If we like to move a lot & eat organic, that is also our own affair. Life is difficult & complicated. We should be able to live our own way &, if we are unhappy & uncomfortable & want to change, to be able to find what works for us.
And, yes, when we need it, we should ALL have access to caring, competent, unbiased health care. That is a nice dream, one I wish would come true. Unfortunately, that dream is far from reality in countries with nationalized health care either, so I am not sure what the answer.
Meowser, I am glad that you seem to have evolved a lifestyle & an eating style which works for you. I wish you years of happiness & whatever health means to & is possible to you. We also place far too much emphasis on BEING “healthy” & being able to prove we are ‘healthy’ in order to be treated with respect & deemed worthy of the good things in life in this culture. Keep on keeping on in the way that works for you.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Jadzia@Toddlerisms
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-42681
Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:45:41 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-42681I stopped Remeron because it gave me disturbing, haunting dreams that I couldn’t forget. (I don’t think it affected my weight one way or the other.) It was nice being able to sleep, though.
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Comment on A Tale of Two Lifestyles (in One Body) by Alexie
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/a-tale-of-two-lifestyles-in-one-body/#comment-42675
Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:02:41 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=869#comment-42675The takeaway for me from your article is that people need access to decent healthcare, that picks up blood disorders and so on very early, and not because someone stumbled into an emergency department for something else. Do you think all the hysteria that goes on about personal responsibility is entwined in some way with the reality that many people are excluded from the health system in the US?
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by Patsy Nevins
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-42461
Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:05:19 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-42461Fat is different from illness,though, in that it is generally a natural genetic variation in body size & NOT a disease. So I don’t think anyone has the right to hate ME OR my fat. I have cerebral palsy, which is not a disease but a birth defect, & I don’t think anyone has the right to hate me for that either, though plenty of people have, nor do I really believe it is necessary to hate cerebral palsy. I was born with my disability, I am 62 years old, I have no idea what it is like to be able-bodied, nor do I know if I would be the same person or have grown the same way if I had been born able-bodied. The diseases which genuinely cause great pain, suffering, & early death, such as cancer, are terrible things which need to be eradicated & I do hate those diseases, but not the people who have them. The people whom I dislike I dislike because they are jackasses, not because of any health conditions they may have. I am developing arthritis as I age & it is definitely not my best friend, but I can deal with it, I do pretty well living my life as I choose on a daily basis. One thing I DO know after 62 years of living & 32 years in fat acceptance is that my fat is part of me, mostly genetic, that it is benign, not damaging my health & in fact as I grow old most likely protecting my health, & my fat is NOT a ‘condition’, so I don’t want people to hate me OR my fat. I also know that overall I am doing pretty well & am very lucky, including lucky that all the abuse I have endured & all the issues with which I have dealt all my life have not caused me (yet anyway) to need pyschotropic medications. And I DO know that it is luck, not an indication that I am somehow a better person than someone who does need drugs. People have to do what they need to do to enable them to be as healthy/functional/happy as they can be & life the best life possible. I hate & distrust doctors, have no faith in the mainstream garbage they accept as faith, especially about fat, & avoid them like the plague, but then, I have been lucky enough to be healthy enough so far to mostly avoid doctors. My luck may at some point run out as I age. I feel especially lucky & wonder about the fairness of life when I watch my 33-y-o daughter-in-law, who has battled one kind of cancer or another most of the time for the past 10 years & has to have a colonoscopy Tuesday to find out if cancer has decided to show up there as well. So, yes, I really HATE cancer, but not the people who have it, & I don’t hate fat OR the people who are fat.
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by redheademerald
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-42359
Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:13:12 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-42359Cancer absolutely does suck. I’m coming at that from several viewpoints: my dad died of lymphoma, I work as a tumor registrar, and the husband of a close friend of mine went in to have a lung removed last week (still awaiting news, fingers crossed he’s OK). Lung cancer is one of those instances where people assume that the patient ‘brought it one themselves’ – you don’t tend to get this with other cancers, but you certainly see it with type II diabetes now – which is another way of identifying the person with the disease: you invited it by your actions, you’re a collaborator, so you don’t ‘deserve’ compassion or, as far as some people are concerned, treatment. Despicable and disgusting, but unfortunately, an all too common attitude.
Your questions are intriguing to think about, and, AcceptanceWoman, I’d love to see that flowchart. I suffer from both depression and anxiety, and my pathways would be different for each: I suspect the world in general would find my depression more ‘inconvenient’, but the anxiety is, for me, personally, the one I’d go further to fix.
Along the lines of breaking things to fix them, I heard a radio program today which discussed the use of psychosurgery to ‘treat’ mental illness (or sometimes just inconvenient personality traits) in the 30s and 40s. Someone asked a modern surgeon what he’d say might be the treatment on which we’ll look back in fifty years and go ‘What were we thinking?’. He said chemo for cancer might be seen in that light. I’d unreservedly say WLS is a far more likely candidate.
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Comment on Who Gets To Eat What They Love? (Hint: Not Women) by AcceptanceWoman
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/who-gets-to-eat-what-they-love-hint-not-women/#comment-42337
Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:45:02 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=846#comment-42337I don’t know how I missed this post, but it’s awesome.
People who appear thin can engage in any number of life-shortening habits (smoking, drugging, drinking, having unsafe sex) but are not scolded to the degree Paula Deen has been for “promoting unhealthy habits.” She keeps cooking and eating foods that are labeled unhealthy, but how is that worse than Bourdain’s smoking — you think his doctor hasn’t advised him to quit smoking?
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by AcceptanceWoman
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-42335
Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:35:59 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-42335Brilliant, as usual.
I don’t have the right software to do it, but I want to make a fancy flow-chart decision tree thingy from your questions (all paths would lead through, at some point, “do your best to love and accept yourself as you are”).
I am really struggling right now with all of this — I’m having sleep problems that came on after some recent weight gain, and I’m hesitating to explore options because I know I didn’t have the problems to this degree when I weighed somewhat less. Sigh.
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by ann
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-42311
Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:38:44 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-42311I think disease sucks. I hate it. I treat it every day as a doctor. I hate diabetes, high blood pressure, depression, anxiety, IBS, fibromyalgia, all of it. Suffering does not improve life. it sucks. I do NOT hate my patients who have any of these conditions. that’s not totally true. some of them are schmucks who I don’t like, but I don’t hate any of them. disease sucks. that’s it.
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Comment on Can You Hate My Condition, and Not Hate Me? by Twistie
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/can-you-hate-my-condition-and-not-hate-me/#comment-42294
Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:47:14 +0000https://fatfu.wordpress.com/?p=854#comment-42294As it happens, I have two brothers who both suffer from depression. One uses the evil brain drugs of doom because he feels he functions better when taking them and the benefits outweigh the side effects. The other chooses not to take the evil brain drugs of doom because he fears that taking them will change who he is and he’s unwilling to take that chance.
Me? I hate depression. I think it sucks sweaty donkey balls. I would do a hell of a lot to save both my brothers from the suffering it causes. But I (a) do not hate either one of them due to depression, and (b) absolutely respect their individual choices in how to handle the condition.
I’ve also known people with various cancers. Some chose to fight by any means at their disposal. Others by conventional means only. One or two have decided to forego treatment and just do their best to enjoy what time they had left. In every case, I hated the cancer. It sucked. But whatever they chose, I did my level best to support them no matter what I personally thought of their choices.
Now, if more people would show me the same respect in regard to my waistline, I’d be a much happier person.