Category Archives: fulltimer

RV Fultiming "Winter Camping" Questions

I’m not new to “winter camping” or 24/7 year round boondocking. I live in an area that gets 5 to 7 months of snow (more on a “cold” year), and usually spends 2 of those months at temps of -20F to -48F before wind chill factors (and living on the coast, we get a lot of high winds all year long). I lived fulltime in a tent since 2006 (no electricity, no running water, etc), during that time we had 3 blizzards (one which buried my tent under 9 feet of snow), 2 ice storms, and 5 hurricanes. So, extreme winter camping is a lifestyle for me. I love the cold and snow, I avoid the heat and hot climates.

I’m upgrading. I’m moving out of the tent and into a motorhome. I have not bought it yet, but the one I’m planning to buy is a 1988 Class A 31′ Georgie Boy TravelMaster. (Which has already been customized for fulltime boondocking, thus why I’m trying for this one first.) If they sell it before I come up with the cash to pay for it, I’ve got a few “back-up RVs” on my list, all are 1980s Class As. (After spending 2 years going in and out of every new and used RV, MH, TT, 5Th in the state I came to the conclusion I prefer the Class As of the ’80s.)

So, here’s the thing. I’ve never lived in a motorhome before. This is going to be a totally new thing for me (as well as being the LARGEST living space I’ve had in 36 years – I lived in a 16’x9′ beach cabin before the tent.). And me, living in the types of places I like to live I’m going to have to make sure it gets winterized for some heavy duty super cold regions. (Once in the motorhome I plan to spend a lot of time boondocking between Maine, Quebec, Yukon, Alaska, Colorado, etc, exploring the coldest iciest parts of North America – it’ll likely never see a warm day again once I own it!).

So my question is: what the heck do I need to do to my motorhome to winterize it? Does anyone have any advice on “RV Boondocking” in extreme cold regions

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This post was written by Wendy C Allen aka EelKat, is copyrighted by The Twighlight Manor Press and was posted on Houseless Living @ https://houselessliving.blogspot.com and reposted at EK’s Star Log @ https://eelkat.wordpress.com and parts of it may also be seen on https://www.squidoo.com/EelKat and https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com  If you are reading this from a different location than those listed above, please contact me Wendy C. Allen aka EelKat @ https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile and let me know where it is you found this post. Plagiarism is illegal and I DO actively pursue offenders. Unless copying a Blog Meme, you do not have permission to copy anything appearing on this blog, including words, art, or photos. This will be your only warning. Thank you and have a glorious day! ~ EelKat

Answers To Your FullTime RV Living Questions: I want to start full-timing. Who is responsible for paying for stuff? What expenses am I responsible for?

 I’m sorry, but I have to say this seems like a pretty silly question and I’m not sure why it was even asked or if maybe not all of the question was written down? ???

Okay, so you want to go full-time living in an RV and you want to know who is responsible for your expenses? Uhm, hello! YOU ARE!

You want to go full-time living in an RV and you want to know which expenses you are responsible for? Uhm … ALL OF THEM!

Okay, I’m thinking I only got part of the question. So I am going to analyze and deduce and adjust my resulting answers accordingly, to see if I can figure out what it is you meant to ask here.

I can see three scenarios that could result in this question:

Scenario #1) You are a teenager or young adult still living with your parents and getting ready to go off on your own or maybe go to college and are planning to move into an RV for however long. Not having any money of your own you feel it is your parents responsibility to pay for your RV expenses and they disagree with you and so you are now asking me what it is that you are supposed to be paying for on your own and what your parents are supposed to pitch in.


My answer to Scenario #1) : As a teenager or young adult just starting out, it is understandable that you may at first need some help to get by while you are first on your own. Now moving into an RV is a big step for anyone and even more so for someone just starting out on their own. What expenses should you pay for yourself? Ideally all of them. If you do not yet have a job, my first advice is to start looking for one, BEFORE you move out on your own, and than save every penny until you have enough saved up to be able to support your RV lifestyle for 3 months. Than move into the RV and continue to work, while using your savings to pay for the first few months expenses. After this point you should be settled down to a routine enough to know how much your expenses are and be able to live quite well on your income.

Okay, so maybe you do need your parents to pay for a few things to help you get started. But try to be reasonable about it. Think about the expenses you ACTUALLY NEED and do without the ones you SIMPLY WANT. You don’t NEED $50 a month internet access when you can use free Wii-Fi at Starbucks or public libraries, at least not when you are starting out. You don’t NEED $75 a month TV when you can watch free movie and TV show DVDs from your library – you can get by for the first few months without TV. You don’t NEED to start out with a brand new $150,000 motorhome when you can get a 5 year old used one for a $1,000 off Craigeslist.

So you are just starting out, what do you need? The RV for one thing (including registering, insurance, maintenance, repairs, etc.). Food to eat. Water to drink. Gas to get from your parking spot to work. And a place to take a piss. That’s it. Nothing else. Not one solitary thing. Everything else is a WANT, not a NEED. Those things cost me under $150 per month. I live quite well on my $2,000 per year income.

If you are working a regular job, than you are making no less than $7.50 per hour, which is $848 a month if you are working part time and $1,200 a month if you are working full time. And Honey, if you are living in an RV and your expenses are over $200 per month, than something is seriously wrong with your spending habits!

Now if you are still looking for a job, than you may have to ask your parents for help, yes. But don’t just ask for them to pay your bills for you! No! Ask for a loan. Ask for a loan LESS THAN $3,000. You can live in an RV very well, for a year, with $3,000 and by the time that money is gone, you should have a job and be able to both support yourself AND have enough to pay that $3,000 back.

Now …….

Scenario #2) You are a couple about to leave in your RV and the wife is saying the husband must foot all the RV bills, while the husband is saying the wife should, or maybe one of you wants each to pay half and the other disagrees, or maybe one of you wants to pay for everything and is refusing to let the other help out, and so on and so forth. Unable to agree which of you should pay for what you are now asking what I think.

My answer to Scenario #2) : As a couple, this is harder to answer. Lots of factors are involved here. I know some men who absolutely refuse to allow their wives to hold jobs or spend money. I know some wives who are so “independent” that they refuse to allow their husbands to pay a penny for anything. There are couples that divid all bills in half equally. Others each pay for what they use, keeping everything separate. And for each of the above there are dozens of variations in between.

To answer your question requires you look at how you are handling money matters right now. Is your current set up working for you are a couple? If so than there is no reason to change it.

Personally I think it is best for each to pay his own way, and split the stuff you both use. or example, if you put $200 worth of gas in the RV, each of you should pay $100. If only one of you has a computer and uses the internet, than only that person should pay ALL of the computer and internet bills. This is the easiest and most fair solution.

Scenario #3) It could be that you were asking for a list of what expenses RVers have.

My answer to Scenario #3) : Depends on your personal situation and your location, the type of RV you own, how often you are parked, how far you travel, etc.

A quick list of your expected expenses includes:

Cost of the RV itself.

Cost of a tow vehicle, if needed.

Cost of the toad, if you have one.

Registrations, inspections, and insurance for each of the above. (Remember that an RV is a house and needs BOTH auto AND home owners insurance.)

Gas for each of the above.

Oil, batteries, and repairs for each of the above.

Power supply: electric hook-ups, solar panels, wind turbines, generator, propane, etc.

Water supply: tap hook-ups, self contained tank storage, etc.

Food.

TV, phone, and internet if you chose to have any of these.

Any health insurance and medical supplies you need.

Clothing, bedding, furnishings, etc.

If you have pets or children, anything they need.

These are you basic expenses which all RVers have. Anything over that is extras.

Tip:

While it may be tempting to start out in a new RV, keep in mind that a new trailer costs $35,000 – $150,000 and a new motorhome costs $75,000 – $300,000. It is also temping to rush out and get a loan so you can buy a new RV. Stop and think. You’ll be paying for that new RV every month for the next 20 to 30 years. Do you REALLY think you’ll still be living in that same RV 20 to 30 years from now? What about interest? Whatever the price tag is, you’ll be paying nearly twice that amount if you pay via a loan, as a result of 20 to 30 years of interest (and possibly late fees). Think too about resale value. 30 years from now you’ll have a hard time selling your $300,000 coach for $5,000, IF you can even get that much for it. Look around the used lots: those $5,000 motorhomes are only 5 to 10 years old. You can always buy a big/newer/better RV later when you are better able to afford to pay cash for it.

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This post was written by Wendy C Allen aka EelKat, is copyrighted by The Twighlight Manor Press and was posted on Houseless Living @ https://houselessliving.blogspot.com and reposted at EK’s Star Log @ https://eelkat.wordpress.com and parts of it may also be seen on https://www.squidoo.com/EelKat and https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com  If you are reading this from a different location than those listed above, please contact me Wendy C. Allen aka EelKat @ https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile and let me know where it is you found this post. Plagiarism is illegal and I DO actively pursue offenders. Unless copying a Blog Meme, you do not have permission to copy anything appearing on this blog, including words, art, or photos. This will be your only warning. Thank you and have a glorious day! ~ EelKat

Storing Canned Food and Jars in Your RV.

Ckerr wrote:    I’d like information on how to store canned goods, etc so they don’t come flying out of the pantry when you open the door after a move. Also tips for making the most of limited refridgerator/freezer space.

I had this question a few months back, (about storing canned foods) forget where I asked it now, but I do remember the answer I was given, and thought I’d pass it along.

When you buy food, veggies, fruit, soups, sauces, etc, in cans or glass jars, dehydrate them. If you don’t have a food dehydrator (I don’t), spred the contents of the can/jar onto a cookie sheet (drain juice from fruits & veggies first!) and “bake” in the oven at low temps (250-ish) for and hour or two, untill the food is completly dry.

For soups and sauces, you’ll end up with a sheet that looks like fruit leather. Use a knife to cut the sheet into squares.

Store dried food in ziplock bags or plastic tubs.

To rehydrate, just add boiling water and cook/serve as usual.

If fully dryied with zero moisture, the dried foods will keep idefiantly (as long as they don’t get wet).

I have no idea why I did not think of doing this myself, but once I found out about it, it’s just amazingly the best way to store food. An in a motorhome you you don’t have to worry aboout dented cans or broken glass jars, AND dehydrated foods cut down on weight A LOT and storing them in zipper baggies means you can tuck a whole patry full of food into a counter drawer so it’s huge on space saving too.

Hope that helps. (I know it helped me when I was told about doing this!)

This post was written by Wendy C Allen aka EelKat, is copyrighted by The Twighlight Manor Press and was posted on Houseless Living @ https://houselessliving.blogspot.com and reposted at EK’s Star Log @ https://eelkat.wordpress.com and parts of it may also be seen on https://www.squidoo.com/EelKat and https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com  If you are reading this from a different location than those listed above, please contact me Wendy C. Allen aka EelKat @ https://laughinggnomehollow.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile and let me know where it is you found this post. Plagiarism is illegal and I DO actively pursue offenders. Unless copying a Blog Meme, you do not have permission to copy anything appearing on this blog, including words, art, or photos. This will be your only warning. Thank you and have a glorious day! ~ EelKat