HTTP/2 200 date: Thu, 09 Oct 2025 01:20:17 GMT content-type: text/plain content-length: 4460 cf-ray: 98ba0df87d77c18d-BLR content-location: 03-apa-irc.txt vary: negotiate,accept,accept-charset,Accept-Encoding,Origin tcn: choice last-modified: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:37:42 GMT etag: "335f-52ae1e9cba980;602036a3bd259 cache-control: max-age=21600 expires: Thu, 09 Oct 2025 07:20:17 GMT content-encoding: gzip access-control-allow-origin: * x-backend: www-mirrors x-request-id: 98ba0df87d77c18d strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; includeSubdomains; preload content-security-policy: frame-ancestors 'self' https://cms.w3.org/ https://cms-dev.w3.org/; upgrade-insecure-requests cf-cache-status: BYPASS accept-ranges: bytes set-cookie: __cf_bm=yWScMU77n.KUdKuhH34.G.3RX0W7VIJDS4c86aScFFU-1759972817-1.0.1.1-VonkrQmBIa2IqpcNiUCRMkw__S4AGgHnAd3doRp7zzIWJtbSo62oT2nnMcXR437LoF5jvduK60SIVEqhcNrPoQP.24ja5t8WF5wvQ_1HJiM; path=/; expires=Thu, 09-Oct-25 01:50:17 GMT; domain=.w3.org; HttpOnly; Secure; SameSite=None server: cloudflare alt-svc: h3=":443"; ma=86400 16:41:01 RRSAgent has joined #apa 16:41:01 logging to https://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-irc 16:41:03 RRSAgent, make logs world 16:41:03 Zakim has joined #apa 16:41:05 Zakim, this will be 16:41:05 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 16:41:06 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 16:41:06 Date: 03 February 2016 16:41:20 zakim, agenda? 16:41:20 I see nothing on the agenda 16:41:26 agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes 16:41:26 agenda+ Decision Policy CfC -- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html 16:41:29 agenda+ Web Payments Update -- Shane 16:41:31 agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 16:41:34 agenda+ new on TR https://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 16:41:36 agenda+ Other Business 16:41:39 agenda+ next and future meetings https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273 16:41:42 agenda+ be done 16:41:53 zakim, next item 16:41:53 agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina] 16:46:58 present+ MichielBijl 16:47:08 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:47:08 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichielBijl 16:47:51 chair+ janina 16:57:15 JF has joined #apa 16:59:58 tzviya has joined #apa 17:01:02 zakim, who's here? 17:01:02 Present: MichielBijl 17:01:04 On IRC I see tzviya, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, chaals, ShaneM, MichaelC, trackbot, MichielBijl, slightlyoff, janina, joanie 17:01:10 regrets: Cynthia, Gottfried 17:01:32 present+ Janina 17:01:47 MichielBijl did you use a different password to get into the webex call? 17:02:01 So I'm not the only one :) 17:02:22 no, although it shows you as present there plus on IRC 17:02:23 weird 17:02:29 present+ Leonie 17:02:41 present+ Tzviya 17:02:52 Present+ JF 17:02:56 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs 17:02:57 Weird. I'm definitely not on the call 17:03:45 fesch has joined #apa 17:04:03 present+ fesch 17:05:21 present+ ShaneM 17:05:43 scribe: fesch 17:06:38 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Feb/0002.html 17:06:40 agenda? 17:06:51 js: interesting topic on Web Payments 17:07:04 zakim, next item 17:07:04 agendum 2. "Decision Policy CfC -- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html" taken up [from janina] 17:07:17 zakim, item 1 17:07:17 I don't understand 'item 1', fesch 17:07:46 zakim, up 17:07:46 I don't understand 'up', fesch 17:07:50 zakim, take up item 1 17:07:50 agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina] 17:07:55 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #apa 17:08:04 Present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger 17:08:22 https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF 17:08:44 jf: web on TV interest group has spun up a new task force, interesting work going on there 17:08:57 q+ to share EPUB 3.1 Ed Draft 17:09:01 jf: I am monitoring the group 17:09:48 jf: we have worked with some of the folks before :) 17:10:02 ack tz 17:10:02 tzviya, you wanted to share EPUB 3.1 Ed Draft 17:10:09 https://idpf.org/news/first-editors-draft-of-epub-31-available-for-review 17:10:56 tz: first draft changes a lot, quite an accessibility focus including metadata, looking to add accessibility modulte 17:11:11 s/dult/dul/ 17:11:44 tz: if you have feedback please send it to Tziiya or Marcus 17:11:48 zakim, next item 17:11:48 agendum 2. "Decision Policy CfC -- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html" taken up [from janina] 17:12:19 js: CFC running through tomorrow, same as ARIA working group 17:12:29 js: questions? 17:12:36 zakim, next item 17:12:36 agendum 2 was just opened, fesch 17:12:42 zakim, close item 2 17:12:42 agendum 2, Decision Policy CfC -- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html, closed 17:12:44 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 17:12:44 3. Web Payments Update -- Shane [from janina] 17:12:51 zakim, next item 17:12:51 agendum 3. "Web Payments Update -- Shane" taken up [from janina] 17:12:54 zakim, take up item 3 17:12:54 agendum 3. "Web Payments Update -- Shane" taken up [from janina] 17:14:38 sm: web payments activity is complicated - stated out of an community group - split into interest group (architecture of web payments in W3C) 17:15:11 sm: talking about way people exchange money - digitally 17:16:17 sm: also a web payments working group - tight charter - working on web payments API - javascript - specifically around requesting money - ongoing - not to do with user interface 17:17:21 sm: good news/bad news - browsers responsible for UI - but APA has an interest in this 17:17:43 sm: also includes a messaging API for requesting money 17:18:21 sm: there is a way to do the messaging via HTTP.... 17:18:52 sm: also a credentials interest group - 17:19:23 sm: Shane is involved in all activities 17:20:11 sm: groups are having a face-to-face late Feb (21-23) , Katie will be there too 17:20:53 s/21 -23/22 / 24/ 17:21:08 sm: Face to face in San Francisco 17:21:59 sm: lets talk about the kinds of things that are important to accessiblity 17:23:10 sm: I can't image browsers are going to do anything outside their infrastructure to support payments 17:24:29 sm: when you buy stuff online, in the background (in the future), the browser will look in my digital wallet to see how you can pay 17:25:10 sm: so you could see a popup - vendor X has requested a payment and you have these three choices --- and you pick one - magic occurs ... 17:26:04 katie: the receipt is part of the roadmap 17:27:17 sm: while requirements will come out in the first round of work, we need to tell the browsers what we are concerned about - we have existing requirements 17:27:46 q? 17:28:08 sm: there is a lot of negotiation between payer and vendor - they group is not trying to standardize that at this point 17:28:11 q+ janina to discuss how to start paur and to start defining a11y reqs 17:28:56 Ryladog has joined #apa 17:29:11 Present+ Katie Haritos-Shea 17:30:15 js: thinking what we have structurally in the MAUR - it breaks it down by disability and suggests accommodation for each that works well... provides guidance 17:31:17 js: thoughts on PAUR - focus on each disability, requirements may shift depending on the case and environment - at home vs at auto shop... 17:32:22 q? 17:32:28 ack ja 17:32:28 janina, you wanted to discuss how to start paur and to start defining a11y reqs 17:32:41 js: so approach like MAUR did... include environmental situation, should we schedule a meeting to write the PAUR 17:33:28 sm: we should hold off until after Feb meeting - would you like me to take the MAUR and boil it down for a PAUR 17:33:35 sm: where? 17:34:00 mc: put it in the PF directory and then move it or make a new directory 17:34:42 mc: maybe better to make a new repository... Janina opinion? 17:35:17 sm: prefer a new repository 17:35:49 mc: we can move with history... creating a new repository... apa 17:36:27 lw: I would be like to work on it 17:36:58 zakim, next item 17:36:58 agendum 4. "Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina] 17:37:29 action-2007 due 1 week 17:37:29 Set action-2007 Review shacl use cases and requirements https://www.w3.org/tr/shacl-ucr/ due date to 2016-02-10. 17:38:17 action-2006 due 1 week 17:38:17 Set action-2006 Draft comment to ensure authoring guidance is provide on eme https://www.w3.org/tr/encrypted-media/ due date to 2016-02-10. 17:39:41 fe: still doing, biggest interest for this group is a high contrast media query 17:40:02 rrsagent, make minutes 17:40:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichaelC 17:40:37 tz: this is a huge area in dpub, we have use case upon use case.... 17:41:42 tz: in digital publishing it is expected to know... 17:43:10 fesch" is that the same as high contrast mode 17:43:48 tz: we have use cases 17:44:46 action-2005 due 1 week 17:44:46 Set action-2005 Review media queries level 4 https://www.w3.org/tr/mediaqueries-4/ due date to 2016-02-10. 17:45:33 action-2001 due 1 week 17:45:34 Set action-2001 Review gamepad https://www.w3.org/tr/gamepad/ due date to 2016-02-10. 17:45:46 action-1751 due 1 week 17:45:46 Set action-1751 Review push api https://www.w3.org/tr/push-api/ due date to 2016-02-10. 17:46:20 action-1762 due 1 week 17:46:20 Set action-1762 Review https://www.w3.org/tr/csp-cookies/ content security policy: cookie controls to see if a11y issues or not due date to 2016-02-10. 17:46:36 zakim, nest item 17:46:36 I don't understand 'nest item', fesch 17:46:43 zakim, next item 17:46:43 agendum 5. "new on TR https://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina] 17:47:39 https://drafts.csswg.org/css-transitions/#accessibility 17:47:40 js: had a request from a CSS spec ... thinking about accessibility 17:48:08 js: thought it was a great start, if folks want to look at it, we can discuss next week 17:48:34 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/ TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0 (IMSC1) 17:50:24 action: foliot to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0 (IMSC1) https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/ 17:50:24 Created ACTION-2008 - Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1/ [on John Foliot - due 2016-02-10]. 17:50:26 action-2008? 17:50:27 action-2008 -- John Foliot to Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1/ -- due 2016-02-10 -- OPEN 17:50:27 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2008 17:51:02 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/beacon/ Beacon 17:52:11 sm: is about bluetooth... 17:53:18 sm: only the API not the user ends 17:53:36 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/hr-time-2/ High Resolution Time Level 2 17:53:58 js: not worried about 17:54:22 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-depth/ Media Capture Depth Stream Extensions 17:56:15 action: fesch to review Media Capture Depth Stream Extensions https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-depth/ 17:56:16 Created ACTION-2009 - Review media capture depth stream extensions https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-depth/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-02-10]. 17:56:18 action-2009? 17:56:18 action-2009 -- Fred Esch to Review media capture depth stream extensions https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-depth/ -- due 2016-02-10 -- OPEN 17:56:18 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2009 17:57:13 lw: can I ask pointer lock questions? 17:57:22 Topic: pointer lock 17:57:44 https://www.w3.org/TR/pointerlock/ 17:57:55 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Feb/0017.html 17:57:59 lw: pointer lock makes it possible to capture mouse movement, control orientation... 17:59:06 lw: recommends way to unlock interaction, sounds similar to way the screen magnifier controls the viewport - will it cause a problem? 17:59:27 lw: when you are playing a game, won't be problem - 18:00:05 js: can we ask Aaron? 18:00:27 jf: I can ask Aaron... 18:01:04 rrs agent make minutes 18:02:24 tzviya has joined #apa 18:02:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 18:02:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html fesch 18:05:26 jamesn has joined #apa 18:06:04 chair: janina 18:06:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 18:06:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichielBijl 18:16:34 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #apa 18:35:40 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #apa