| CARVIEW |
Select Language
HTTP/2 200
date: Wed, 08 Oct 2025 06:34:33 GMT
content-type: text/plain
content-length: 4461
cf-ray: 98b39cf43b57343c-BLR
content-location: 21-mlw-lt-irc.txt
vary: negotiate,accept,accept-charset,Accept-Encoding,Origin
tcn: choice
last-modified: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:19:23 GMT
etag: "433f-4d3cdfc63d4c0;602037f93ee54
cache-control: max-age=21600
expires: Wed, 08 Oct 2025 12:34:33 GMT
content-encoding: gzip
access-control-allow-origin: *
x-backend: www-mirrors
x-request-id: 98b39cf43b57343c
strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; includeSubdomains; preload
content-security-policy: frame-ancestors 'self' https://cms.w3.org/ https://cms-dev.w3.org/; upgrade-insecure-requests
cf-cache-status: BYPASS
accept-ranges: bytes
set-cookie: __cf_bm=_NtPERgofjGbagHiIhyc5izG1KBeSY.jq7zzZtgg96c-1759905273-1.0.1.1-GQPq7uBFgCRFP2SIpW4wMRPIO_y3SnmRcRVzY32ZB7cI3QoY0Xid_IwzuiezFlYPP33B2CoWXnZ5SrRw8XKbbO3YajXFjT05Gln4orHrNQ8; path=/; expires=Wed, 08-Oct-25 07:04:33 GMT; domain=.w3.org; HttpOnly; Secure; SameSite=None
server: cloudflare
alt-svc: h3=":443"; ma=86400
13:46:28 RRSAgent has joined #mlw-lt
13:46:28 logging to https://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-irc
13:46:35 meeting: MLW-LT WG
13:46:38 chair: felix
13:47:20 regrets: christian, david
13:47:28 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Jan/0142.html
13:48:22 topic: role call
13:48:24 tbd ...
13:51:29 regrets+ olaf-michael
13:51:40 present+ fsasaki
13:51:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
13:53:02 regrets+ arle
13:59:16 kfritsche has joined #mlw-lt
14:00:14 pnietoca has joined #mlw-lt
14:00:42 present+ pnietoca
14:00:44 philr has joined #mlw-lt
14:01:00 leroy has joined #mlw-lt
14:01:14 present+ philr
14:01:23 present+ leroy
14:01:42 mdelolmo has joined #mlw-lt
14:02:03 giuseppe has joined #mlw-lt
14:02:11 present+ mdelolmo
14:02:16 Arle has joined #mlw-lt
14:02:16 joerg has joined #mlw-lt
14:02:22 present+ Arle
14:02:29 present+ joerg
14:03:00 Ankit has joined #mlw-lt
14:03:17 present+ Ankit
14:03:17 Jirka has joined #mlw-lt
14:04:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
14:04:23 daveL has joined #mlw-lt
14:04:27 present+ Jirka
14:04:40 present+ daveL
14:04:40 present+ Karl
14:05:09 DomJones1 has joined #mlw-lt
14:05:12 lre
14:05:14 ;re
14:05:24 present+ DomJones
14:05:30 present+ Jirka
14:06:06 scribe: Jirka
14:06:10 scribe: Jirka
14:06:11 topic: LC feedback
14:06:18 https://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
14:06:49 Marcis has joined #mlw-lt
14:06:52 Felix: we have 52 comments, we need to distribute them in order to process them in a timely manner
14:07:01 present+ Marcis
14:07:20 Topic: LC issues
14:07:20 topic: annotatorsRef
14:07:27 https://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item07
14:07:59 Milan has joined #mlw-lt
14:08:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
14:08:57 Pedro has joined #mlw-lt
14:08:57 present+ Milan
14:09:24 Dave: Some people are concerned what will happen when more people will add annotatorsRef into the same document. Probably something like best practice for this will be need.
14:10:13 present+ Pedro
14:10:33 ... Reply will be: we are aware of the issue, but there is no easy solution.
14:10:57 Felix: We need to answer to comment and get feedback back (satisfied/not satisfied)
14:11:47 ... commenters can disagree but can agree to move forward we just record it
14:12:17 ... if someone object to move forward (formal objection) this has to be discussed with director, there is a lot of paperwork connected to this
14:12:23 ... so we should try to avoid this
14:13:44 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
14:15:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
14:15:05 Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there
14:15:05 Created ACTION-386 - Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28].
14:15:22 Clemens has joined #mlw-lt
14:15:29 present +Clemens
14:15:33 topic: provenance record ordering
14:15:59 https://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08
14:16:20 Felix: can we close it as is?
14:16:21 https://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08
14:18:33 Felix: there is no strong requirement for timestamp inside group
14:19:14 Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp
14:19:14 Created ACTION-387 - Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28].
14:20:11 topic: Disambiguation and term
14:20:21 Postponed till F2F where Christian can dial-in
14:20:45 topic: Sorting LC comments
14:20:46 Domain discussion will be postponed as well
14:20:59 https://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
14:21:29 Felix: We need to assign "shepherd" to each comment
14:22:03 issue-67?
14:22:03 ISSUE-67 -- Change definition of regular expression for allowed characters -- open
14:22:03 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67
14:22:25 yves and shaun
14:22:44 issue-68?
14:22:44 ISSUE-68 -- Disambiguation (and term) -- open
14:22:44 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/68
14:22:57 Sure
14:22:59 marcis
14:23:09 issue-69?
14:23:09 ISSUE-69 -- recursive nesting of external rules -- open
14:23:09 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/69
14:23:27 pablo
14:23:28 Pablo
14:23:36 issue-70?
14:23:36 ISSUE-70 -- Defined order of precedence missing inherited local values -- open
14:23:36 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/70
14:23:54 felix
14:23:54 felix
14:24:05 issue-71?
14:24:05 ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open
14:24:05 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
14:24:07 issue-71?
14:24:07 ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open
14:24:07 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
14:24:10 dave
14:24:13 issue-72?
14:24:13 ISSUE-72 -- Section 8.12 (Provenance Data Category) -- open
14:24:13 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/72
14:24:15 dave
14:24:54 Action to all - look at all issue before F2F in Prague
14:24:54 Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at .
14:24:58 issue-73?
14:24:58 ISSUE-73 -- NIF comments -- open
14:24:58 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/73
14:24:59 felix
14:25:05 issue-74?
14:25:05 ISSUE-74 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 WD-its20-20121206 - Section 1.1 (Relation to ITS 1.0 and New Principles) -- open
14:25:05 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/74
14:25:52 dave
14:26:45 issue-75?
14:26:45 ISSUE-75 -- Comments related to "domain" -- open
14:26:45 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/75
14:27:02 Jörg
14:27:13 issue-76?
14:27:13 ISSUE-76 -- clarification of "inconsistency" quality issue type needed -- open
14:27:13 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/76
14:27:40 Arle
14:27:52 issue-77?
14:27:52 ISSUE-77 -- Precedence of global rules in HTML if both links and inline rules with "script" are available -- open
14:27:52 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/77
14:28:06 Jirka
14:28:21 issue-78?
14:28:21 ISSUE-78 -- I18N-ISSUE-203: Use of rel values in HTML -- open
14:28:21 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/78
14:28:27 Jirka
14:28:46 issue-79?
14:28:46 ISSUE-79 -- I18N-ISSUE-204: Use of namespaces and HTML -- open
14:28:46 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/79
14:29:00 Jirka
14:29:09 issue-80?
14:29:09 ISSUE-80 -- I18N-ISSUE-205: Examples of html markup in section 6 -- open
14:29:09 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/80
14:29:35 Felix
14:29:51 issue-81?
14:29:51 ISSUE-81 -- I18N-ISSUE-207: Term data category and dfn element -- open
14:29:51 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/81
14:30:05 related to ISSUE-89
14:30:44 Felix: HTML already provides something like ITS markup already, for examply its:term can be explicitly marked by using element
14:31:02 Well the dfn has a much narrower use case than Terminology ...
14:31:07 That is the issue ...
14:31:19 (as I understand it)
14:31:46 Felix will create proposal for both issues (81 and 89)
14:31:58 issue-82?
14:31:58 ISSUE-82 -- I18N-ISSUE-208: Mapping domains to nothing -- open
14:31:58 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/82
14:32:20 dave
14:32:32 issue-83?
14:32:32 ISSUE-83 -- Notes on loc quality issue section -- open
14:32:32 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/83
14:33:06 Christian
14:33:32 issue-84?
14:33:32 ISSUE-84 -- translate ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
14:33:32 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/84
14:33:50 tadej has joined #mlw-lt
14:33:55 David
14:35:01 issue-85?
14:35:01 ISSUE-85 -- NLP Interchange Format (NIF) - 1.0/2.0, Canonical XML, Unicode Normalization Forms -- closed
14:35:01 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/85
14:35:02 felix
14:35:22 issue-86
14:35:22 ISSUE-86 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-209: Implementation commitment -- open
14:35:22 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/86
14:35:24 felix
14:35:27 issue-87?
14:35:27 ISSUE-87 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-210: Whitespace in ruby example -- open
14:35:27 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/87
14:35:29 felix
14:35:32 issue-88?
14:35:32 ISSUE-88 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML [should be cite, q, or blockquote] -- open
14:35:32 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/88
14:35:35 felix
14:36:31 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/open
14:37:24 issue-90?
14:37:25 ISSUE-90 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-214: directionality should be made normative, with informative additions -- open
14:37:25 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/90
14:37:33 felix
14:37:36 issue-91?
14:37:36 ISSUE-91 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-215: Parts of Ruby section should be removed -- open
14:37:36 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91
14:38:00 wait till I18N WG will provide additional feedback
14:38:05 issue-92?
14:38:05 ISSUE-92 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-216: Locale filter note -- open
14:38:05 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/92
14:38:15 Yves
14:38:35 issue-93?
14:38:35 ISSUE-93 -- Case-insensitivity mode for predefined tokens undefined; should be ASCII-case-insensitivity -- open
14:38:35 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/93
14:38:55 Jirka
14:39:04 issue-94?
14:39:04 ISSUE-94 -- Use of XSD number types is inconsistent with numbers in HTML -- open
14:39:04 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/94
14:39:25 Jirka
14:40:25 issue-95?
14:40:25 ISSUE-95 -- I18N-ISSUE-217: Missing support for localizable items that are not translatable -- open
14:40:25 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/95
14:41:04 Phil
14:41:09 issue-96?
14:41:09 ISSUE-96 -- ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
14:41:09 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/96
14:41:27 dave
14:41:36 probably this is duplicate
14:41:41 issue-97?
14:41:41 ISSUE-97 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD - HTML translate -- open
14:41:41 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/97
14:41:59 Karl
14:42:03 issue-98?
14:42:03 ISSUE-98 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-238: Selecting attributes using local selection -- open
14:42:03 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/98
14:42:51 Milan
14:43:06 issue-99
14:43:06 ISSUE-99 -- I18N-ISSUE-239: Selecting attributes using Selectors -- open
14:43:06 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/99
14:43:08 Milan
14:43:14 issue-100?
14:43:14 ISSUE-100 -- I18N-ISSUE-240: Bad example: Hard-coded coordinates [ITS-20] -- open
14:43:14 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/100
14:43:19 Felix
14:43:22 issue-101?
14:43:22 ISSUE-101 -- I18N-ISSUE-241: Directionality section doesn't mention isolates [ITS-20] -- open
14:43:22 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/101
14:43:24 Felix
14:43:35 issue-102?
14:43:35 ISSUE-102 -- I18N-ISSUE-242: Clarify case-insensitive match for domains [ITS-20] -- open
14:43:35 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/102
14:43:46 Pablo
14:43:50 issue-103?
14:43:50 ISSUE-103 -- I18N-ISSUE-243: Clarify filtering algorithm for locale filters [ITS-20] -- open
14:43:50 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/103
14:44:03 Yves/Shaun
14:44:12 issue-104?
14:44:12 ISSUE-104 -- I18N-ISSUE-244: Require recent version of Unicode [ITS-20] -- open
14:44:12 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/104
14:44:17 Felix
14:44:27 issue-105?
14:44:27 ISSUE-105 -- I18N-ISSUE-245: Consider replacing Unicode block escapes with script escapes [ITS-20] -- open
14:44:27