HTTP/2 200 date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 09:46:09 GMT content-type: text/plain content-length: 2916 cf-ray: 98c5305b1f7fc190-BLR content-location: 05-mediafrag-irc.txt vary: negotiate,accept,accept-charset,Accept-Encoding,Origin tcn: choice last-modified: Wed, 05 May 2010 12:29:29 GMT etag: "1af8-485d7fa33bc40;602037f8d472f cache-control: max-age=21600 expires: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:46:09 GMT content-encoding: gzip access-control-allow-origin: * x-backend: www-mirrors x-request-id: 98c5305b1f7fc190 strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; includeSubdomains; preload content-security-policy: frame-ancestors 'self' https://cms.w3.org/ https://cms-dev.w3.org/; upgrade-insecure-requests cf-cache-status: BYPASS accept-ranges: bytes set-cookie: __cf_bm=oUbE9iIqbvlbSN8D1RdtRDfK6o.uwh.dQgXqEExYN_U-1760089569-1.0.1.1-60X8yrfDtUdIgsZCEHD58Ca65WP0u31ZhpFG7AOv9pM.P_9I5Qe6z_AlnW8xoB70XoVsJgKuFu2riBl5j_BI.9ewX2_7Pa6m039k9y9.LwA; path=/; expires=Fri, 10-Oct-25 10:16:09 GMT; domain=.w3.org; HttpOnly; Secure; SameSite=None server: cloudflare alt-svc: h3=":443"; ma=86400 09:01:29 RRSAgent has joined #mediafrag 09:01:29 logging to https://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-irc 09:01:31 RRSAgent, make logs public 09:01:31 Zakim has joined #mediafrag 09:01:33 Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG 09:01:33 ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start now 09:01:34 Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 09:01:34 Date: 05 May 2010 09:02:17 Chair: Raphael 09:02:30 IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started 09:02:37 + +49.300.aaaa 09:02:38 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0005.html 09:02:39 erik has joined #mediafrag 09:03:15 Regrets: Michael, Jack, Conrad, Davy 09:03:16 + +0329331aabb 09:15:02 Raphael: 15 min waiting, no sign of Yves, all others have sent regrets :-( 09:15:12 ... no need for Silvia for dialing 09:15:20 ... suggest to cancel the telecon 09:15:30 ... express deep concern about the lack of progress 09:15:43 ... 14 overdue actions, how should we deal with that? 09:15:50 you will need to chase up ppl directly 09:16:09 not just through the meeting, but during the week 09:16:15 it's not happening otherwise 09:16:32 I guess that's part of a chair's job, as unfortunate as it is 09:17:00 btw: how was the conference? 09:18:25 Erik and I did chase the people all over this week ... emailing and phoning! 09:18:34 oh wow 09:18:44 can some actions be re-distributed? 09:18:46 It is not enough apparently :-( 09:18:55 This is what I think we should do 09:19:19 Yves is apparently in forced holidays until end of May ... but told us he would be able to work anyway 09:19:47 The WWW conference was great, media fragments was presented twice, during the Developer's Track and during the HTML5 track 09:20:08 ... slides are online: https://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification 09:20:32 good feedback? 09:20:36 ... Davy made twice the Ninsuna demo 09:20:50 did you present all cases, also the one Yves is still working on? 09:21:12 ohhhh - you should have put the Mozilla logo on for me, not Vquence 09:21:16 but never mind :) 09:21:28 ... very good feedback from the participants, yes we present the 4 scenarios 09:22:23 any concerns by ppl? 09:23:01 -Erik 09:23:03 - +49.300.aaaa 09:23:04 IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended 09:23:06 Attendees were +49.300.aaaa, +0329331aabb, Erik 09:23:09 [meeting adjourned] 09:23:25 people were enthousiastic with the work done 09:23:43 excellent 09:23:48 ... I have also shown the Firefox plugin we are developing in EURECOM, and that I hope to release very soon 09:24:00 could Davy record his demo and publish the screencast somewhere (youtube?) 09:24:13 oh nice! 09:24:20 same request there - do make a screencast! 09:24:34 ... we had another great idea with Davy: that I could have a parameter in my plugin to proxy the request for media fragments towards Ninsuna 09:25:04 ... so that for any videos, if you decide to proxy it ... then you can get Ninunsa serving you media fragments of any videos 09:25:23 ... of course, if ALl the web does that, poor Davy's mcahine will be killed, but for a demo purpose, it could be great 09:25:37 ... good idea for the screencast, I believe indeed we should make one 09:26:05 hahaha - poor Davy! 09:27:05 yeah, screencasts will give you exposure to a larger audience 09:27:12 they will also explain better what should happen 09:27:24 I think it will be easy to explain to the browser vendors what to implement 09:27:41 I'd just like to resolve to error cases before moving it forward 09:28:00 I might start an email discussion on the mailing list for it - seems that might get us a little progress at least 09:28:08 yep, I mention a patch currently submitted to Mozilla by Dailymotion for better interaction with the media player of the browser if receiving just video fragment 09:28:29 I will comment as well on your action 161 09:28:33 tonight most likely 09:28:56 need to get some work done! and more important, get in touch with Yves to see whether we should re-allocate his actions NOW or not 09:29:19 yeah - I'd be happy to work on some of them 09:29:29 what's Dailymotion's patch? 09:29:43 it implements media fragments? 09:30:20 yeah, before we made it :-) 09:30:38 Dailymotion has made its implementation of media fragments, slightly different syntax, and keep it secret :-) 09:30:53 now, they will be full W3C spec compliant 09:31:13 oh! how is it different? 09:31:19 ... they submitted a patch a year ago to mozilla, for the issues we are talking about, but the patch has not yet been included in the main release 09:31:30 I need to find the number and relaunch the process, I'm working on that with DM 09:31:37 cool 09:31:54 I can get the right ppl to look at it if you point me to it 09:32:22 ok, good to know, I will first find the patch in the mozilla trunk and then, once I got the URI, get in touch with you :-) 09:32:34 cool 09:32:49 caption support is going into HTML5 as we speak 09:32:50 my student, developing the media fragments ff plugin, might ask you some questions too 09:32:56 chapter tracks, too 09:32:58 yep, I noticed the news :-) 09:33:00 and the javascript api 09:33:06 then we will be able to address by name, too 09:33:07 wonderful, it is moving forward 09:33:22 sure, go ahead with any questions 09:33:54 great, I let you have your dinner, I need to have some work _done_ :-) 09:34:03 Talk to you next week, hopefully ! 09:34:03 just prepared the schnitzel 09:34:07 will now have to cook them! 09:34:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael 09:34:16 yeah - let's hope we have some progress then 09:34:19 ciao! 09:34:45 scribenick: raphael 09:34:51 good talking with you, btw ;) 09:37:41 ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics 09:37:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael 12:05:38 Zakim has left #mediafrag 12:22:28 conrad has joined #mediafrag 12:29:27 RRSAgent, bye 12:29:27 I see no action items