Great post Jeff. I agree with you. Here in Italy free (or not) wifi spots are really rare to find and by June 2007 is not a viable option. Every carrier here (Vodafone, Tim, Wind Mobile, H3G) jumped on the 3G bandwagon years ago and almost every new mobile phone over a certain price range is 3G ready.

What bugs me is the fact that Italy is the country with the most number of mobile phones per person (I think it battles that with Finland every year). People love this kind of stuff and I guess that when, at the end of the year, the iPhone will be available in Italian stores plenty of people who don't need it will buy it anyway :-)

OK Mr. Human Factors - watch this video and tell me that again...
https://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour_large.html

Boy, did I get burned by the first iPaqs that came out. I got one the first week they came out in the UK, and suck it did.

Much as I would love an iPhone, I'm going to leave it too. Apart from anything, as you say - maybe this will give the smartphone vendors (and MS) the kick up the ass they need to get their act together. Then in a year's time I'll be able to buy a swishy smartphone instead.

And I'm still waiting for my Apple PDA, Jobs.

I have a Nokia E61 (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS (aka 3G), Wifi). I have switched off the UMTS part of the phone because it sucks the batteries dry in a day. Now my E61 lasts about 4 days on one charge with normal usage.

But there doesn't seem that much of a difference. Our EDGE networks (Switzerland) deliver speeds up to 256kb/s (which is not that far from the speed of UMTS (384kb/s)). Maybe the AT&T network is due for an upgrade too? So there might be a iPhone in your near future anyway

HSDPA (3.6MB/s) is a different animal but coverage is very spotty at the moment.

https://www.swisscom-mobile.ch/scm/gek_mobile-unlimited_nutzung-de.aspx

cheers
Jens-Christian

> watch this video and tell me that again...

"Download QuickTime to view the video".

Not very inspiring, somehow.

Jeff!
We WANT folks to buy that shiny lovely new iPhone so that it's a success, so that the kinks can be worked out, so there will be a 2.0!
(Then maybe I'll buy one).

I wish I could buy one now just for the NON-PHONE features.

Loved the 'Babe' quote. I've been using it and no one seems to recognise it. One of the more underrated film quotes I'd have to say

You've spoken too soon, it looks like AT&T have upgraded their networks:
https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/28/atandt-customers-seeing-sudden-boost-in-edge-speeds/

Yep. wait for version 2.0 before buying

And this will be even more valuable here in Europe, where (between different countries) the mobile access providers situation is a slimy, smelly black hole...

Let's just hope that only a few people will read this blog entry. We need a lot of "gadget people" to buy version 1.0, if we want to get version 2.0 :-P

You should try living in the outskirts of Norway where our trusty old GPRS network for the time being is the only option for mobile internet, it's way slower than EDGE.

In spite of this I too am addicted to the net on my phone, thanks to my J2ME Opera Mini browser - it compresses web pages and images through a gateway and makes most web pages readable on my tiny Sony Ericsson phone. With web applications that require javascript (and many does, often to perform the most mundane tasks) you're out of luck though.

Spot on, Jeff. It's not just the people buying the thing that make that mistake, though, it's also the people who are saying 'iPhone - meh, it's not all that'. Similar sort of thing as the famous quote about the first iPod on SlashDot - 'No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.'. Maybe so, but features are a lot easier to add than innate design quality.

Having said that, I can't see myself *ever* buying an iPhone unless (like your phone!) someone else pays for it!

Must agree with Kristian on the wonders of Opera Mini. Even on slow connections the compressed data transfer makes it fast. And with the new Opera Mini 4 (currently in beta, downloadable from www.operamini.com ), it even has the practical zooming overview that Apple was so very proud of. :)

You're not stuck with just webbrowsing if you prefer to stay away from the Smartphone way either. Google provides J2ME applications for many of their web-apps, such as Gmail, Reader and Maps.

And finally, since Apple has decided not to ship iPhones as proper standalone phones, but requiring it to be bundled with a major operator (AT&T in US, most likely Vodaphone or T-Mobile in Europe) it is not very likelly that they will even ship to countries where these operators does not operate. Not to mention the fact that I prefer to choose my operator based on operator services and pricing instead of a forced operator with the phone...

Great Article Jeff - I live in Australia where 3G is pretty much the "Rule" rather than the "exception". Our major telco's are pushing hard and it's been available in all cities for a few years now. I would guess that that many other countries are the same.

I wrote a very similar piece only a couple of hours ago about the iPhone and what it will need before it will succeed over in little old Australia, if anyone is interested on a different perspective!
(https://gavinbenda.com.au/2007/06/29/what-the-iphone-needs-for-australian-release/).

But the iPhone shouldn't be only judged on Internet services. Basically, most people will want iPhone as the Best iPod ever and the best Cell Phone ever!

Internet services is just additional bullet points. Everyone was clamoring for iPod and cell phones to be combined, not as much press was talked about being a texting device before.

The iPhone's contacts, conference calls, and visual voicemail already puts it above any other cellphone for beauty, speed, and design.

iPod functionality is unmatched with any other phone, smart or not.

The Internet in the pocket is over hyped since I am usually a few seconds away from a computer and Internet at work or home and that is 80% of the day.

There are also other missing functions that are quite important here in EU.
For instance: MMS. I can't remember when was the last time I sent a regular postcard to someone from vacation. Always MMS.
The camera is above average, but nothing special. Nokia N95 has a 5 mega pixels, which can be easily used as a replacement for your digital camera. I have N73 with 3.2mp and I don't feel the need for some extra camera. Which is not the case with the iPhone.
When I first head of iPhone I thought: finnaly something that will fourfill all my gadget needs (phone, organizer, web, email, mp3, GPS, camera, ...) but the I saw the specifications and lost all interest.
It would be a great buy for maybe half that price, because I can doo all that and a bah of chips with my N73 minus multi touch, which is IMO the only real reason people are so exited about the darn phone.

I was gonna say, it does depend if you're fussed about the mobile internet stuff. In the UK, I've always been put off it because you pay through the nose for data. The AT&T iPhone plans seem to come with unlimited data access, so I guess in the US one might actually want to use the mobile internet stuff.

Still, for ?600, you'd want to get a few years' use out of it. The lack of 3G (at the hardware level) could start to really grate. Let's hope the improved EDGE speeds linked to above hold out for the million or so people who'll buy an iPhone in the next week.

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Your point of view is higly respecable, Jeff, but keep in mind that what your whole argumentation here is based on is :
- your experience using an internet access
- your feeling towards early adoption of a device.

Many people will consider the internet access more like a tech gadget than anything else, as they will be more attracted by the communication and multimedia capabilities. And I'm sure you know better than many people how a well designed web site can offer great user experience even on a crappy access.

As for early adoption, your experience with your current smartphone tells it all : you were reticent at first, but then pleased by something you did not forecast. I am not saying an iPhone would work the same with you (or me, or anyone either), but it shows that enthusiasm is always a possibility when a product tries to innovate.

And lastly, even if I *very* often have the same reaction of "let's wait for the 2.0 version", I keep in mind that early adopters are the ones who, through their act of buying, help a somewhat-good device being improved instead of just flushed.

The use of edge networks is definitely a negative. But if the trade off is a shorter battery life and a larger device for faster but less available internet is that really better? It is a mobile device. If the page takes 30 seconds to render just walk a block further and then check your phone.

I don't care about Edge. I care about the fact that it takes 17 separate steps to enter an appointment into my P990i. If the iPhone is as efficient to use as it looks, I'm in.

Pretty much all *ware is filled with bugs, so it is very likely the iPhone will only be as good as predicted after version 2 or 3. But..

I believe that that the iPod's success is because Apple made it better from each version instead of making new iPod?s. Yes they made the nano and the shuffle, but they are sold parallel. The usual mobile companies make new products all the time. I always forget the product name of my mobile phone, was it a nokia 6280 or a nokia 6233? And to tell you the truth, I don?t really care anymore. I have had a Nokia 3210, 3320, 8260, Simens Sx1, Samsung E370, and so on. All of them filled with bugs, tedious user interface, slow, and so on. Apple might bring back some loving for a mobile phone.
Mobile users of today, is like us PC geeks, we don?t ?care? about the machine, only question is what can be done with it. I am no Apple fanboy, but I can see some of the loving in the mac owners that I was part of when I was an Amiga, C64 or Spectrum user.

Well Jeff, and maybe you will not buy an iPhone, but I am sure a lot of women will. And what women want, tend to matter quite a bit to us men. :-)

https://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/06/05/mid_market_consumers_women_will_trade_up_to_luxury_of_iphone_report.html

Looks super cool... But I won't be getting one.

No replaceable battery - bad experience with my iPod over that one

Not enough memory for my music/videos - so it's a poor replacement for the iPod

No card slots

And perhaps most important to us developer types - Apple doesn't allow us to develop for it like Microsoft does with Windows Mobile.

Don't want AT&T

I couldn't agree more about free wifi, but you forgot one thing - open wi-fi is fairly unsecure, too. I was using a OpenVPN to work around the security issues, but lately that has stopped working, too (seems these wi-fi places have shut down the port or something). Blech. Now I just use the USB to cell phone solution with my Treo on the Sprint network, and I am way happier. Plus, it works in a lot more places, not just where I can find wi-fi.

Couldn't agree more, lack of 3G is the main reason I took the iPhone off my list of possible smart phones.

I did consider the blackjack, but the new Motorola Q9 looks very tempting...all of the guys here at Telligent use the old Q and swear by it. Looking forward to how the Q9 works with Windows Mobile 6.

Uh, lemme think, iPhone has Wifi, and EDGE, EDGE is available nearly everywhere including one time I got it inside a hotel without having to find a "hotspot", Wifi is even better than 3G, umm, oh yeah, have you noticed that when you go into the city there's only a few million unsecured Wifi hotspots, oh well, that isn't enough for me, I'm the pickiest person in the world and I don't want a faster Wifi over 3G because I'm looking for movie tickets and I'm in the city and umm I don't like faster.

TAKE THAT, iPHONE HATERS!

I'm not even on cable or fiber-optic right now, I have a home wifi with regular DSL, that's I think 768kbps upload and 384kbps download, lets see, with you say EDGE is 10kbps not specifying upload or download (I'll assume a synchronous connection here, to be generous), you say 3G is five times that or more, I will again be generous and says 10 times as fast, that's a 100kpbs synchronous connection over a 768/384kpbs download/upload asynchronous connection, that seems a bit OWNED!

Great post, Jeff! I totally agree with you about how much mobile internet access spoils you! I bought a Cingular 8525 (HTC Hermes) early this year, and signed up for their unlimited PDA internet plan. I got so used to being able to check my email/rss feeds anytime (had iGoogle as my mobile browser start page), google/wikipedia/imdb immediately (instead of saying "I should look that up later"), etc. Totally spoiled. Last time I went to a video store, it was awesome being able to easily look up IMDB user ratings.

However, I have to disagree a little bit about the speed thing. My UMTS coverage, around here, is very spotty. In fact, much of the time, I'm lucky to even get EDGE. Often it drops down to basic, run-of-the-mill, slower-than-dialup GPRS. But it didn't matter that much to me, because it was still usually better than waiting until I got home to look up whatever info I wanted/needed. It was sometimes frustrating to wait, and I did give up countless times and close my browser. But, if I really wanted to know something, and didn't need it *immediately*, it was usually possible to get what I needed within a few minutes.

Last month, I bought the car I've been drooling over for 4+ years (infiniti g35 coupe), and I had to cut out some expenses in order to afford it. Unfortunately, the $50 unlimited internet/1500 text msg mobile phone plan was one of the first things to go. I love the car, so it's worth it, but I'm still trying to adjust to the shock of suddenly not having, as you so eloquently put it, "the sum of the entire world's knowledge in the palm of [my] hand".

So, now I generally add a note in my phone if I want to look something up later, rather than looking it up right when I'm thinking about it. Or I jump through a few hoops to get on a wifi connection, when one is available. A lot of times I can't use free public wifi hotspots, though, because they make you sign in through a web interface first, which sometimes requires more javascript (or something) than my phone can deal with. As for paying for short-term wifi use, I absolutely refuse to pay $10+ to starbucks just to check my email while I'm waiting for my coffee.

Hi Jeff,

Steve here. Just wanted to let you know that I've dispatched two of my best agents and their phasers are set to RDF-stun. I expect a rectification of this blog post as soon as they finish. Oh, one more thing: your iPhone is in the mail! Be well,

Steve.

Your overuse of bold text is highly annoying.

It's a damn shame that it's so easy to post comments on here. The mention of the iPhone has brought thousands of extra eyes out of the woodwork, and the barest hint that you may want to wait until APPLE THEMSELVES come out with a better version, has lead directly to a super-defensive retard infusion. Quick Jeff, a new post about LINQ or ASP.Net, bore the phone people and they'll leave! ;)

I currently have a T-Mobile Dash. It too is limited to EDGE only, but I find that I often get sustained speeds of over 200Kbps when using with a laptop. While still slow, it is definitely usable. I really find the IE on the device to be more the problem than the connection speed.

My main reason for not being interested in the iPhone is it's lack of use as a modem either via USB or BlueTooth.

Gabe, Jeff was confusing units, I'm fairly sure he meant 10 kBps. (10 kbps would be 1/3 the speed of your average dialup, after all...) So the correct comparisons would be 80kbps EDGE, 400-800kbps 3G, and 768kbps DSL.

I'm also surprised you can find a high availability of free wireless hotspots. Outside of San Francisco or Mountain View it can take a while to track one down, but I guess it's okay if you spend all your time in SF.

Presumably you mean you can't *overstate* how powerful access to wikipedia is. If you can't understate it, its significance is near zero.

This article explains the "real" price of the iPhone:

https://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/31534

I still don't get it how religious people can get over the
merits of, mmh, just another smart phone.
So could anyone tell me in five sentences why it is superior over
other devices without using the words
'cool', 'apple' and 'jobs' ?

Damn you Rob Conery! I didn't really care about the iPhone until I watched that video link! Now I must have one! Edge network be damned!

I guess it's a good thing I'm too poor for fancy phones then.

Thanks for the advice...I'll wait for the iPhone Nano!

The only advice I have is to remember that if you always wait for the improved model, you'll never buy anything. There is always something better.

"Hey, I'll wait until January when iPhone 2 comes out with 3G and stereo bluetooth."

January arrives...

"Oh, now I'll wait until next year for iPhone 3. It will have 2x battery life, TV remote functions, java support, and a video recording function with its new, 5 megapixel camera."

And on, and on...

What was it that Guy Kawasaki infamously learned at Apple? "Don't worry, be crappy"

Jeff,

For someone going from either no mobile internet access or some crazy mobile web equivalent, EDGE combined with a true browser will be like water to a thristy man. You have to put it into perspective, there is a large segment of the American population that still use dial-up! Besides, 3G is not ubiquitious (for att&t I think around 130 cities).

The real win for the iphone is the combo of phone, ipod, and dead simple interface. No more trying to navigate with a phone pad, stylus, or joypad. Yes v2 will see better updates, most of which will be software (and likely ported to v1 assuming the OS is flash). Jobs will be loyal to those early adopters who buy today (and further boost his ego) and not leave them out in the cold like the early versions of Win CE.

We'll see who ends up buying this thing; I think it could capture an audience that has computing skills similar to my mom. These are also the people you and I program for. My mom has a blackberry for work, but can't figure out how to work it. She can't even figure out how to work her cell phone! If the iphone can help these people become more productive (or at least more comfortable with tech), Jobs will be a true visionary and every UI developer will have to bow down to his greatness.

The other type of crowd buying the iphone will wear it on a large gold rope chain around their neck.

Folks, it will be successful.

While I agree with you in principle about a few of the iPhone shortcomings, I think for a lot of people for a while they're going to be functionally irrelevant - AT&T's 3G network coverage is spotty at best, so if you don't live in a urban megalopolis you'd never see 3G even if you had support for it; and the cell-phone-as-modem trick, while nice, is not something most consumers do - partially because last time I checked AT&T charges a fortune for that sort of thing (although I'm not sure how it would figure into their iPhone rate plan anyway).

I for one will be waiting for 2.0 or even 3.0. I have the 3G and a 5G (video) iPod. the 3G was far better then the 1G or 2G.

Great article as always!.

Any Canadians reading this article are probably laughing right now, since our wireless industry is abominable. It costs me $25/month for a 3 MB (that's transfer cap, not bandwidth) EDGE connection. Unlimited is something absurd like $100/month. 3G is practically nonexistent, EDGE is even slower than yours, and EV-DO exists but has the same silly transfer caps.

So I doubt that the lack of 3G, which we can't even get on GSM, will be a big barrier to adoption in this country. We've just accepted the fact that wireless data plans are for e-mail only.

I still refuse to buy iProducts though. I bought my Treo primarily for PDA and e-mail, both of which are simple and seamless. Maybe when I have that $500/month discretionary fund I'll think about upgrading.

"EDGE connection, it's like downloading the internet through an overclocked dialup modem."

In at least one way, it's far worse than a dialup modem: latency. With 300-400ms packet round trips, EDGE is basically useless for SSH, Remote Desktop, or Remote X11 connections, despite the higher bandwidth when compared to dialup.

All true, Jeff-- IF you're buying the iPhone to be a killer mobile internet device. For me, an iPhone would be my first PDA, let alone my first PDA/phone combo. Its ability to do calendar and contact synching with my PowerBook, as well as things like the voice mail interface and touch-driven UI, are the selling points. It may also become my fallback movie device on planes, depending on the quality. The fact that its internet access speeds may be slow just isn't a deal-killer for me, and I suspect that will be true for a whole lotta people.

Plus, never underestimate the power of a phone that lets people take a really nice picture of their kids and instantly make it the desktop picture.

check this url to get a feel of what happens

https://developer.sonyericsson.com/thread.jspa?threadID=39963

The cost of the data plans over the course of a 2 year contract are ridiculous, one might even say rediculous. So having a smart phone/iPhone with a data plan is a great idea, if your employer is going to be footing the bill for the phone and the service. Last I checked, tethering was an extra fee as well.

I plan on buying a T-Mobile Dash in a month when my Verizon plan ends. (goodbye you customer hating bastards!) I'm looking at the Dash primarily for it's built in WiFi and SD card slot. Running WM6 is a bonus. The Helio phones and plans are running a close second. I considered getting a Blackjack, but there was no "reach-around" or "kiss-afterward" included in the AT&T data service plans.

I may have to get a data plan in a few months. But if you can't find a free WiFi hotspot in Seattle you just aren't trying. Since my primary use of mobile internet now is to find out when the $#@% bus is going to show up, I may need the data plan since I don't think bus stops are hotspots.

So great post. Lack of 3G is the reason I am not getting it either. That said, your post says
"It's saved me at least fifty bucks on WiFi access fees in the last two months alone-- and I could do it from anywhere I had cell coverage, not just in a small hotspot huddled around the altar of WiFi. "

Now come on. Sure save you 50 in the past couple of months, but if you have 3G on your blackjack you are at a minimum paying 20 a month for the service. Even if your company is paying, its not free.

As for those that think that EDGE will be fine, that may be true for when you try to get emails, but come talk to me after you have tried to watch a video or audio stream.

And as for WiFi being everywhere, maybe if you are in one of the 10 biggest cities in the US, but its not everywhere. To me 3G is the bomb. I personally get (regularly) ~450kbps up and 900kbps down. When in Dallas, I get even better than that. So that that you 3G haters! ;-)

And to those that say that WiFi is faster than that, my response is, yeah to the router. But what if the hotspot is only connected to an ISDN line? What then?

Jeff:

Watch for these to be a problem too:
- The only way to get music...connect to PC
- The only way to get video...connect to PC
- Need more power...stay near an outlet (battery is sealed in)
- 4GB/8GB = iPod Nano
- Touch screen (talk to the UMPC guys about this for typing and then shrink it a bit more)
- Corporate email - no sync to Exchange or Blackberry
- What about IM?
- Support - Who you gonna call? Apple? ATT? Good luck.

> "Download QuickTime to view the video".

WTF are you expecting on Apple's site, RealVideo? Get a Mac, already.

you should try ms deepfish browser, I just put on my t-mobile dash smartphone and it gives you full mode browsing like iPhone, hopefully they improve on it

Good post Jeff. However, coming from a T-mobile sidekick3 I'm used to the slow EDGE network. Plus if the late-breaking news of AT&T overhauling their network is true I shouldn't have a problem at all.

Looking forward to your first iPhone app,
Brandon ;)

It's always annoyed me that MS hasn't improved mobile IE in ages.
Hopefully that will change with Safari on the iPhone. On the plus side, at least Opera makes a good browser for Windows mobile and Windows Mobile has Slingbox/Slingplayer support.

@Aaron G I feel your pain.

I'm Canadian too and I cling to GPRS just because I'm tied to my old $20 unlimited hiptop data plan. I'd never give up email, ssh and IM anywhere. But browsing the web is so.. damn.. painful.

I hope the iPhone makes a big splash just so there's hope for an unlimited data plan in Canada again.

I'm sure 3G is nice, just as I'm sure edge was nice when it came out too. For those of us, like me, stuck in never-never land who have never even tried browsing the web on our phones, the iPhone will be a welcome gadget due to its elegant interface. Ignorance is bliss. Not knowing what a 3G or edge or any type of data connection on a phone looks like, I will likely become an early adopter (assuming I can get my hands on one without having to wait in a long line).

Nice story about Second City. Just imagine, if you had picked up a regular cell phone and dialed 411 instead of dicking around with the internet, you might have bought those last tickets yourself instead of ending up on the waiting list!

I have something for watching video. It's called a TV. I don't need to watch TV when I'm eating, commuting, or in a business setting.

Strike 1.

I have something with which to listen to music. It's called an MP3 player, a stereo system, or perhaps even a car radio. The places I don't watch TV, I probably don't need to listen to music, either.

Strike 2.

A phone should make phone calls. It should make good, CLEAR phone calls. It should have a decent battery performance while making calls, and a seriously long standby time when not making calls. The whole phone-calling aspect should be the major functionality of anything calling itself a phone.

Strike 3.

Resistance is not futile. Refuse to be assimilated.

I've now had two WM5 phones. One touchscreen Cingular 8125 and now I have the Sprint Motorola Q - non-touchscreen WM5. The Q is a very similar phone to yours. I can say this. The non-touchscreen version is much better. I nearly went for the iPhone. I'm very glad I did not.

Here's a tip to make browsing even better on your phone. From google mobile search page, go down to settings. Turn on "Format web pages for your phone." Now when you want to visit a site that is a bit bloated, or just a site that doesn't have a mobile version. First, search the site in google mobile search, then click the link and let google make browsing the site a pleasure... enjoy!

Brook - Phoning is a major aspect of the iPhone, did anything give you the impression it wasn't?

Looks like the EU version will have 3g
https://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/06/29/euro_3g_iphone_announcement_monday/

What's an iPhone?

> if you had picked up a regular cell phone and dialed 411 instead of dicking around with the internet, you might have bought those last tickets yourself instead of ending up on the waiting list

Touche.

> Your overuse of bold text

Agree, I went a little too crazy on that this time. I toned it down.

> But the iPhone shouldn't be only judged on Internet services. Basically, most people will want iPhone as the Best iPod ever and the best Cell Phone ever!

Still, I think mobile internet is-- and will be-- huge, even if people don't realize how significant it is right now. The iPhone has the best mobile browser, ever, so it's practically *criminal* to hobble it with EDGE and reliance on WiFi. It's hard to have a good mobile internet experience with those as your only two options.

> you always wait for the improved model, you'll never buy anything

Agree, but there's a point of inflection where it does make sense to buy. Eg, you'd be foolish to buy an Apple laptop after it's been out for a year, the price hasn't dropped at all, and new models are historically imminent..

I hope the iPhone is a huge, massive success. The cell phone industry needs a massive kick in the rear, and if it takes the iPhone to do it, so be it.

Great post Jeff. I totally agree. I'll be in line for my iPhone next June.

As far as I know, one of the primary reasons behing not having 3G is that the modem chipsets are wildly inefficient.

BATTERY LIFE

You'll get what, 8-9 hours of browsing time over edge with an iPhone? And what, 1.5 hours over 3G with your blackjack?

I, for one (and it does seem to be exactly one in the vast minority here), am glad that my cell phone is nothing more than a phone and a speed dialer. I mean, I don't even have a camera on my phone. It is so freeing -- when I go out into the world, I'm not tethered to the Internet and people don't expect me to be tethered to the Internet when I'm not sitting at my desk.

The iphone is a toy, a shiny, touch-screen toy, with non-3G capabilities. I have an at&t toy called the razr v3xx, with a 2GB micro-sd card in that puppy. My phone is completely capable of watching full movies and listening to a large library of songs, i then slap on the micro to sd adapter that came with the card, then put it in my camera. After i snap a couple pictures, i put it in my mp3 player and listen to music for a while.When i'm done, i slap that card in my laptop, and take the pictures off, move some songs around. I like the ability to connect my devices in some way, via cable(which my phone, camera, and mp3 player share) or card, or bluetooth.

The iphone is another toy, just with limited capabilities, and an unjustified price tag. It's not that i absolutely hate apple products, i just don't think their price tag justifies their quality.

I agree with jeff, if you like the iphone, wait. There will be buyers to fuel the need for an upgrade.

I agree, the iPhone isn't what it's made out to be. Nokia phones will do just as good if not better, though. Symbian is awesome. Someone said that their batteries are bad? My answer: It is that way with bad connections. Live with it. Or move nearer to a cellular broadcast tower instead of out in the sticks like you are now.

WHY would I wait? I'll buy the iPhone today (one for me and one for my wife) and then when the new ones ship, I'll buy two new ones. That's what happens with every other product, so why not with the iPhone. If you don't have the discretionary income to do that, then I'd argue that you can't afford an iPhone (now or later).

Saying not to buy and iPhone now because a new one is coming is like saying "don't buy a computer now, the new ones will be faster/cheaper." "Don't buy a car now, the new ones will be cooler/safer."

This attitude is silly. It leads to people communicating by carrier pigeon and riding in covered wagons.

Until the internet is free, we cannot be truly free.

Until we learn to live, walk, shop, meander thru life (at least in 1 hour increments) without internet attachivity, we will not be free of the Matrix (assuming we are not watching TV, listening to radio, or reading establishment press).

Wayne, that's not what he's saying. It's more akin to "Don't buy that new car now because in a little while a new model with air conditioning will come out" (I know that's not a good example, I'm not a car buff). If you live in a hot country it's really difficult to get by without air-con.

It's perfectly reasonable to wait for a product to be on the market for a while before you get it. No matter how much testing they do new problems and painfully missing features will always be found shortly after public release.

Successful convergence is damn near impossible to achieve because the amount of time and money needed for proper usability testing to decide on the right way for users to utilize the new device is completely outstripped by the breakneck speed of hardware innovation, new use cases, and a limiting time-to-market.

As a result you get an series of imperfect attempts towards a seemingly reachable but effectively unreachable goal that is continuously spiraling in different directions based on hardware innovations and new use cases.

And you thought software development was tough!

All in all, though, I think the iPhone is a good step towards that holy grail.

600 US is a lot to pay for a phone, albeit a phone with web and music capbility. What if you have fat sausage fingers, iPhone touchscreen still work?

Also, I'm Sprint, we just signed up for a new plan, we leave, early termination fees apply. Most places you sign up with a plan and then pick the hardware that works with that plan. Does iPhone work for Sprint, could I upgrade, probably not.

Anyway, I might be interested if it was $199 with phantom rebates. What happens if the battery dies, do I have to send my phone back? Battery should be detachable.

iThings crash and burn too. My wife's iPod wouldn't do anything for days until I went to the Apple website and basically found the command for CTRL+ALT+DEL to "reboot" the iPod.

I beleive this is Apple's attempt to merge Mobile Internet, Music, and Phone into 1 device. I think that is a good direction to take the mobile market. I'm sure there will be early adopters. Also, this could cut into sales of iPod, since now you can manage the music on this device as well...iHype, there is plenty of it.

In Japan if you don't get a new cell phone at least once a year, you are old-fashioned...

Guess it isn't like that in America...

As a Mac user looking to converge my devices (phone, iPod, PDA) I've <a href="https://www.bioneural.net/2007/06/29/mac-friendly-alternatives-to-apples-1g-iphone/">compared</a> the iPhone feature-wise to potential alternatives. The only thing that keeps me locked into Palm is the fact that I need a mobile password manager that syncs with my Mac (storing website login details, PINs, account nos. etc). I know iPhone can be locked with a passcode, but I want encryption along the lines of PasswordWallet (Mac to Palm sync) or SplashID (PC to Palm/ Windows Mobile sync). Since Apple already have Keychain Access on the desktop side, I would urge them to offer a companion app on the iPhone so that confidential data can be safely stored and changes synchronised. The other areas where iPhone comes up short on my chart are much less relevant to me as a prospective iPhone customer.

> If you don't have the discretionary income to do that, then I'd argue that you can't afford an iPhone (now or later).

Ditto. With a price tag like that, you're either going to buy one or you're not - ever.

Oh I wouldn't say ever. Most of my electronics purchases in recent memory have been from Craigslist/Ebay. I even bought a decent web server I'm running development stuff off the DSL line in my house recently. I have purchased iPods, universal remotes, televisions, gaming systems, etc well below the retail price.

Well atleast you can all afford to use data on your phones, used mine in the first month for checking email on the very odd occasion as I didn't have a home internet connection and got a whopping 200NZD data use bill.

Nosiree not for me.

Well, I just bought one. I am writing this post on it. Three words, it just works. No activesync errors, no reboots, no clunky windows. Don't get me wrong, I am not a mac guy. I have used many phones, PDAs, and combos ( I was using a tmobile MDA until tonight). This is the best device I have ever used. Everything is so intuitive! Say what you will, this is a window mobile killer! Go to the store and try it out (they have plenty of demos). 10 minutes and you will be hooked. This does not have the feel of a version 1 device. (Btw, yes it took a few minutes to write this post on the phone. I can see it getting better over time.)

Jeff,

This is one of the few times I'm actullay just smilling at your post....
"I KNOW YOU WANT ONE SOOOO MUCH". It has NOTHING to do with what you can do with it, it's the HYPE man.

But it's OK....

/Jonas

Looks like the EDGE connections on the iPhone are up to 5 times faster than normal. His Jobness can do anything. Anything I tells ya! :)

You are very lucky you don't live in Brazil. Here I only have EDGE (or normal GPRS for the brave/suicidal), and it costs me US$2.5 per megabyte! The speed is decent though, around 20-25 kB/s.

But the number one reason why I never wanted an iPhone is its size. I currently own a Motorola Ming (A1200i) smartphone, and it does much of what the iPhone does in half the size. It is very good for browsing, since it comes with native Opera.

I did use a Blackjack too, and the first thing I did was intuitively press (literally) the start button, only to find out that it is not a touchscreen. I may have made a fool of myself, but that's the least I expect from a modern phone.

As far as smartphones are concerned, after using the 3 main competitors (that was before the iPhone), Symbian, Windows and Linux, for me Symbian is still by far the best.

Batteries? My old Symbian phone (Nokia N-Gage QD) lasted one week with moderate use, that is pretty good for me. My current one only lasts 2 days. =/

I think iPhone is awesome although they could have done better. But the fact is: there will always be a space for an improvement. The same concept applies to upgrading. The only thing that sucks about UPGRADE is that the company and the third parties stop supporting older versions, and eventually you have to upgrade even if you don't want to. Microsoft OS, for example. I got a Windows 98 OS pc, either i have to dump it or upgrade it if i really wanna use it to its full capability. This sucks for consumers and rocks for enterpreneurs.

All I can say is that I really love my TMobile Wing. It may not be all candy-coated buttons that are really easy to use with my thumbs on the touch-screen, but it's exactly what I was looking for: a PDA with a slide-out qwerty keyboard that happens to work as a cell phone.

Of course, I don't own an iPod, either. I really feel better off with the Pioneer Inno for that functionality (plus XM radio), or the phone with the miniSD card for MP3/WMA storage.

But will you buy the zune phone when it comes out the first week?

Good article, Jeff!
I-phone mania intrigues hipster "gotta have it" types.
This device has, wait for second gen, written all over it!
The price will drop; battery will be user replaceable, and maybe even 3G.
I-pod was never my first choice for tunes; no FM, or voice record.
Remember, Creative sued Apple and won over 200 million for copyright infringement of their interface.

Well I just watched that guide video and i dunno, looks pretty amazing to me. I'm used to WM 5 / Blackberrys / Symbian phones and the iPhone OS just looks so much more improved in every way.

The iPhone certainly is slick but I would hate to use the edge network to browse the web.
What suprises me that in a fourum full of coders there is no mention of the Neo1973. Complete open source phone.

Hardware

120.7 x 62 x 18.5 (mm)
2.8" VGA (480x640) TFT Screen
Samsung s3c2410 SoC
Global Locate AGPS chip
Ti GPRS (2.5G not EDGE)
Unpowered USB 1.1
Touchscreen
micro-sd slot
2.5mm audio jack
2 buttons
1200 mAh battery (charged over USB)
128 MB SDRAM
64 MB NAND Flash
Bluetooth 2.0

Now I'm not a programmer but it seems to me that many programmers would rather create there own super slick apps than wait for the guys at apple to figure it out.
While the neo1973 does not yet support 3G (2.5G only) FIC seems to be pretty good at listening to input from the current develepers as to what needs to be included in the hardware.
Personally i'd rather wait for this phone to come out. And for only $399 bucks seems like a better deal to me.

oh yeah.
website is www.openmoko.com

Pete - I'm fairly sure developers well be able to create apps for the iPhone easily too.

The problem is that America as the worst phone carriers bar none.

The rest of the world went to 3G years ago.

The iPhone is a toy. My cellphone is a tool. The fact that the iPhone cannot copy and paste makes it a horrible tool /and/ a horrible toy.

You don't know what you are missing. I have one- have had it since the first night it became available. Don't want to put it down.
It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. The pre-hype doesn't do it justice. I may sleep with it tonight. It's that beautiful and I'm a woman.

Well, I think everyone can make an educated guess when 3G will appear on the iPhone. If you take a look at this list [1], you'll see that large parts of Europe have moved on from EDGE, are in the process of phasing it out, or never even had it. iPhone Europe will need to move on already, which should happen about 6 months from now.

Much as I like to use Macintoshes, I try to avoid all Apple (or otherwise) 1.0 products.

Maarten

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution#Europe_and_CIS

It is not hype. The iphone is a leap forward in handheld technology. The touch screen is a real touch screen (unlike wm devices). The iphone touch screen senses finger touches only (I am assuming by heat). You could not use a stylus, fingernail, or anything else if you wanted. The keyboard is some interesting tech too. I don't understand it all, but you can see an explanation of the programming at Apple.com. There is programming behind it, it is not a dumb keyboard.

The user experience is radically different from wm devices. Again, this is not just a phone with an Apple OS slapped on it. It is difficult to explain.It is a paradigm shift. I have had probably a dozen PDAs over my lifetime; some with keyboards, some pda/phone hybrids, this thing beats them all. I did not really get it until I began using it. All the hype and ads do not really do it justice.

It is all about the algorithms baby...

The EDGE is a little pokey (for a DSL user) but sufficient for what it does (in my area).

Signed,

former windows mobile user

PS - I am not a apple fanboy, I am someone on a search for a great mobile experience. The iphone provides the best one so far... (for a full mobile desktop experience, I recommend the OQO model 02).

> I may sleep with it tonight. It's that beautiful and I'm a woman.

Ah. You found the vibrate feature then?

Does it have GPS

"Your overuse of bold text is highly annoying."

Dude, what a petty, irrelative post!

Get over yourself!

" > I may sleep with it tonight. It's that beautiful and I'm a woman.

Ah. You found the vibrate feature then?"

ROTFLMAO!!! (Sorry, had to comment!)

Hey Steve Jobs!

As long as you're putting iPhone's in the mail, can you send one my way as well? I'm disabled and the measly monthly check I get from our government isn't enough to even afford an iPhone... After I pay rent and bills, if I save the money I have left for the month, I'd be able to afford an iPhone in about 7 years!!!

codegeek23@yahoo.com

You people who like mobile phones are freaks. There's nothing worse than being continuous connected to gibberish. I don't mean to sound like a troll but this has to be said. This mobile addiction is just not funny.

I once had a mobile phone but it mysteriously broke after my boss called me on the weekend to talk to me about some interface suggestions. Now that I'm mobile-free I can really appreciate that when I step up and away from the computer that I'm actually free from being continuous on demand and can let my mind drop down to its normal, sleepy speed.

I guess I'm just a grumpy, 40 year old programmer who is just showing that he can't keep up with the latest changes in technology. But dang-nabbit I don't get this addiction to mobiles. Don't you people sleep? Don't you people have a break from all that stuff that assails your senses via the internet?

Where's the peace and quiet that you need in order to reflect on yourself? Or do you just go to WikiPedia to search for yourself?

right on sir, good call

Andrew,

Shortly after I got my first mobile phone, I discovered that it had an off button. Makes it very easy to stop being available to the rest of the world.

Hi Jeff. Yes the off button is there and it's so damn easy to turn back on to make its existance worthless.

I don't know about you but I'm a weak person. When I sit in front of a computer the temptation to look about the web and do some emails kicks in, and I find the hours disappearing in what can only be labeled as trivial stuff. I cannot control this addiction other than by standing up and being physically too far from the computer to do anything with it.

Maybe you have great restraint. Maybe you can sit down in a sunny place and resist the temptation of checking your messages or searching wikipedia. Maybe you can avoid playing some games or just explore the features of your mobile. You have better strength than I and I tip my hat to you.

The only way I can control overpower temptation to fiddle is by banning. If the object is not there then it can't be used. Banning is the only way I can have a rest.

You're preaching to the choir here. I bought my first mac in August of 1994, it seemed like every other month a better macine was being introduced. It's like my mom used to tell me about men, "They're like streetcats. Wait ten minutes and a better one will come along."

Hey, I still don't even own an iPOD, but perhaps, this Christmas...

Hey, quit all that complaining about your 10k/sec 2g connection, I get 2k/sec on a 56k modem, though maybe I deserve it for living in the woods.

Mr. Atwood:

I am ashamed of you. You took the time to write this piece without ever actually using the new device. Regain your credibility and actually go use the damned thing. If you dont like it or still say its too early fine, but at least base it on your actual experience instead of "analysis". If anything I would have wanted you to talk about building code using the respective SDK's - not as sexy but probably WAY more informative. I really hope that you arent headed down the same path that Scoble travelled.

No IPhone, no cell phone, no pda...

But I can survive in the woods indefinitely...

I know, what does this have to do with anything in this blog?

Ya'll need to get a reality check. All these cool little toys are nice to haves but in the greater scheme of things do they really improve your life? I mean, do you like getting a call from work a 3:00 AM telling you that you have to come in? Or receiving one from someone who lacks the decency (and brains) not to call from the latrine?

If you do then go for it. But I suspect that most of the 'modern' gadgets are for well, bragging rights and misuse when driving a motor vehicle. Not that anything is wrong with the former and there should be laws against the latter.

By the way, the name Mac doesn't come from being a Macintosh freak. It's actually a play on my ancestry.

Also, the cell phone for safety thing may work when your lost or climbing a mountain however, if your being mugged or shot at the last thing any sane individual is going to do is waste time dialing a cell phone.

By the way, the name Mac doesn't come from being a Macintosh freak. It's actually a play on my ancestry.

$600 is little steep on the iPhone but Apple has a reputation to protect, as the priciest gadget shop in town. Maybe that's why 50,00,000 PC's have been sold and only a couple of million (and I'm being generous) Macs.

Go figure...

Well as data speeds do, I'm still on GPRS on my Blackberry curve, and I have to say I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Emails come in fast and furious and browsing works very well. I guess it depends a bit on your browsing needs also. I tend to read a lot of text heavy blogs. Guess it won't do for people who go to content heavy sites.

But I do agree that once you get used to mobile browsing there is no going back. I find myself still getting amazed at how this little device let's me patch into unlimited information from virtually any place instantly. That's truly freedom.

The other day I was in the paris underground trying to recall the name of a monument I wanted to visit. My instant reaction was to google it - and I did, even though I was on roaming.

I find myself looking up reviews of articles as I walk thru shops, or looking up prices on Amazon before buying stuff in brick and mortar shops.

If the iPhone makes this type of behaviour more pervasive among non-geeks - as it inevitably will - it will have done its job of expanding this space and leading fresh innovation on the mobile web front.

I can respect the "I don't want to buy an iPhone because..." arguments just fine. But after three days of living with the iPhone, following a year with the Moto Q on Verizon with EV-DO high speed data, I can give you some actual user feedback: In short, the iPhone doesn't disappoint this user of at least four different models of smartphones.

Sure, EDGE isn't 3G by any means, and depending on a number of factors, browsing the internet can feel like a return to dial-up (though in fairness, its better than dial-up ever was). But I haven't found any 3G network that has been "darn near a cable modem experience". Most 3G nets top out at 300-400kbs compared to cable modems running 3 mbs and up, so that comparison is a little bit of hyperbole.

But slow data at times, can plague any smartphone on any network. Which is why the WiFi fallback is very handy to have. And yes, you can connect to public and secure WiFi nets on the iPhone.

I would argue that the experience of using an iPhone versus the Q/Blackjack/HTC running WM5 is like comparing a generic American car maker's sedan with a BMW 5-series. Indeed, both are cars and will get you where you want to go, but the similarities end quickly after that. Anyone remotely serious about driving will tell you that there is a world of difference between the two automobiles, and such is true in comparing the iPhone with the Windows Smartphone models on telephone and internet features. And there is no comparison between the two on playing music or videos--and given the sale of over 100 million iPods since '01 that is a feature set many people will be looking for.

Sure you can wait for iPhone 2.0 or beyond. Many waited for iPod 3.0 or beyond. I bought an iPod in its first generation and was very happy with it for two years. If my iPhone follows the same track, I would be happy enough--because who knows what will be out in two years (has anybody kept a cell phone much longer than that?).

I do know for certain that whatever is out then, and whoever is making it--they will be influenced a lot by what is in the iPhone today, and I for one will be using it like crazy until then.

I can emphatically state that based on my experience with the iPhone, this is bad advice. This device is truly a marvel of design, ingenuity and execution. The Edge-based internet access is, at a minimu, adequate. I have not yet had any reservations about pulling up web pags for myself or when demoing. The battery life has been better than satisfactory. No, you don't need $500 per month. You only need $500 per year. I fully expect to upgrade when the next iPhone comes out. I also expect to get a few bucks for my current iPhone.

Bottom line: you can't type on the iPhone. It's great tool to read email, but it's atrocious to write them.

Perhaps they can introduce better horizontal keyboard support -- it is currently limited to the Safari browser, with all autocorrection features turned off. Also, punctuation is terribly stilted. I found that in either mode I had an accuracy rate only slightly better than the handwriting recognition of the Newton, out of the box.

As an alternative to 10 key T9, OK, it's better than that.

I did a good amount of research on the iPhone and it's actually an impressive gadget. Of course, it does have issues. The internet is not that fast and that can be a problem since it seems to rely quite a bit on that one feature. I agree, that the 2.0 might indeed deliver, but, still, this is a good effort, I say. I will wait till the next model to buy one, though.

I did a good amount of research on the iPhone and it's actually an impressive gadget. Of course, it does have issues. The internet is not that fast and that can be a problem since it seems to rely quite a bit on that one feature. I agree, that the 2.0 might indeed deliver, but, still, this is a good effort, I say. I will wait till the next model to buy one, though.

I'd just like to start by saying that I have no intention of buying an iPhone, and don't feel that I have drunk Steve's kool-aid yet.

That said, on the WiFi front, here in SoCal it seems to be spreading. Every McDonalds I've seen within a 400 mile radius of my home has signs proclaiming their free WiFi. If I needed to do something that requires bandwidth in excess of EDGE, how hard would it really be for me to find a McDonalds?

Good one. Vote for this article at https://www.bestofindya.com/news/story.php?title=Why_You_Dont_Want_an_iPhone_-_Yet

I don't get it. Two completely mundane features that I can *already* do with my RAZR ... aren't supported! Synchronizing the phonebook/calendar via bluetooth to a Mac, and connecting to the internet via bluetooth. It is such a ridiculous oversight that it makes me wonder what else they forgot.

These features aren't industry-shaking innovations. They are expected minimums. All the other things the iphone can do are fantastic the screen, the keyboard, the battery life, the ipodness ... but... the phone won't synchronize via bluetooth with Apples own computer? I can browse the internet to my hearts content on the iPhone's tiny display, but the full-size laptop that I have sitting right next to me can't make use of it? That's completely retarded!

I sincerely hope Apple gets a software update out in the next few weeks for their sake. But, I'm even more stymied at how the popular press would make such a big deal over the 3rd party apps, and completely neglect the fact that the phone is *less functional* than a 2 year old off-the-shelf RAZR as a telecommunications device.

Forget the other junk, let me access the internet from a laptop through my phone! I don't care about the speed, it's not going to be any slower on the laptop than it is in the tiny browser on the phone, but I can certainly *SEE* better on the laptop.

Silly... silly world.

I have actually bought and iPhone, and I love it. I never had a Blackjack to compare it to, but that's beside the point, I'm fully satisfied with my purchase. EDGE doesn't bother me that much, and I'm very suspicious of Apple's clear omission of 3G, I think they're hiding a new capability that may spring out later. Especially since I've seen the SIM, which I thought to be a special one for the iPhone and it HAS a 3G symbol on it. Why would they do that with no support? AT&T is doing odd things to their 3G network, I wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting to spring a surprise.

I do have a few complaints: the filesystem is locked down on my PC, I can only see my photos folder from Explorer, and I don't like that, I'd like to be able to see all of my files. Safari has no Flash plugin, which pretty much kills about half of the internet, I'm hoping that that's in the works.

I will admit that I didn't by the iPhone because it has data capabilities like e-mail and internet. I bought almost purely for the interface. The touchscreen interface is so refreshingly intuitive when compared to normal menu-driven cell phones that I still want to smile every time I use it.

Everyone has their own reason for buying the new gadget. I didn't buy my iPhone because it's the be-all end-all of smartphone technology, because it isn't. I bought the iPhone because it represents the first mass-marketed device to use a pure multi-touch screen interface, which is something I've been waiting for since I got my first computer.

Think about it, the next iPod will be full touchscreen, and if not the next generation, then the generation after that of Macs will be touchscreen. This will be the new paradigm in GUI's. The awesome touch GUI we all drooled over in Minority Report is suddenly much closer than we thought.

I've got few friends and work at home. Don't really need a cell phone, I have one of the cheapo pay as you go for emergencies and rare phone calls when I am out about. Like a few said here I don't like being called all the time, like the luddites I like peace of not carrying a cellphone everywhere I go.
This is August 15, I bought the Iphone a month ago, not for a cellphone but for the best iPod, video, podcasts, youtube, google maps, email, wifi, stocks,weather,camera internet. There is nothing else out there comparable yet. I got the pay as you go att gophone and cut the service the 1st month. I have no monthly bill. I get by on WiFi just fine. Call it hype, whatever I know I am haveing fun with it.

Thanks for sharing your thought.
I like the way you voice your opinion.
Rational and neutral.
Keep it up :)

"that'll do, pig" should be an american staple of some sort, don't you agree?

i think u r fucking stupid because the iphone rockz and u r dumb stupid

This is the iphone company and we are going to shut down your website if you don't in the next 24hrs.
thank you for your time
-iphone company

No need for bad lauguage u r stupid!!!!!

sorry but i haver the iphone and it rox!!!!

Oh my god.
What a waste of space.
I have just wasted 10 minutes of my life. Seriously.
I mean, yer, the iphone might not be great but to WRITE about it and post it on the internet like that, pffftt. Single are we?

Seriously.
WHAT THE FUCK?!

I agree with the comment above.
Single right?
Hate your life?
Got nothing to do?
No friends?

Thought so.

i agree with all of the comments i read now that i think about it i don't want an Iphone now thanks for all your comments and info.

This was incredibly dead on. Only it was a bit more than 12 months. I also feel sorry for the people who have nothing better to do than flame you more than a year in the future.

I mistook this post as being posted in January 2007. After realizing it was posted in June I am even more impressed.

Well, speaking of iPhone Ive seen the video of Steve Jobs unveiling the new iPhone with the head-to-head video "How do you Compare": Steve Jobs v. Bill Gates with their big ticket tech toys.(new iPhone and xbox 360} in clash/tech/Iphone.
https://clashorama.com/index.php?id=178][/url].

The iphone is not vital to life. What will happen to it exactly five years from now? An obsolete paperweight? Books last far much longer.

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What a waste of space.
I have just wasted 10 minutes of my life. Seriously.
I mean, yer, the iphone might not be great but to WRITE about it and post it on the internet like that, pffftt. Single are we?

Barrister collins Attn;Dear Friend,it is my pleasure to let you know about. I didn't forget your past efforts to assit me in transffering those funds.Now contact my secretary Mr johnsonmike on is E mail Address johnsonmike@live.fr) ask him to send you the total (USD$800.000.00) cashier cheque which i raised for your compensation .so feel free and get intouched with him and give him your address where to send the cheque; (.i) FULL NAME ..........(ii) ADDRESS ...........(iii) COUNTRY ..................(iv) PRIVATE TEL ............(v) PRIVATE FAX . ..............(vi) OCCUPATION.................... Let me know immediately you receive it for us to share the joy.i'm very busy here with investment projects which i am having at hand, finally,i left instruction to the secretary on your behalf,so feel free to get intouch with him. Best regards barr.collins

CONTACT MY SECRETARY FOR YOUR CUNPASEION